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Oct 17, 2008 11:57 |  #1

My 40D isn't producing too many more keepers than my 20D did... is this normal? After using my 1D and seeing every single shot in focus (if I do my part) I am very tempted by a Mark II.Is it normal for the 40D in Servo mode, single AF point selected, to have the same keeper rate as the 20D? I am using the 70-200 2.8L.Thanks!Zander


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Oct 17, 2008 12:03 |  #2

Are you using the center point focus?


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Oct 17, 2008 12:07 |  #3

Hi,
without seeing an example its hard to make an educated decision on your problem. For me this would not be the case as I find my 40D to be faultless in this type of situation. My keeper rate has gone up considerably since stepping up to the 40D from my 400D.

I would say check your technique first and then if all seems good there then question the camera.

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Oct 17, 2008 12:08 |  #4

Yes on the center point focus. I will post some examples in a moment.


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Oct 17, 2008 12:16 |  #5

So here are some examples... the first is from the 1D/70-200L, the second is the 40D/70-200L. Both center point AF, AI servo, burst mode. Both shot only a few minutes apart at the same location.


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Oct 17, 2008 12:17 |  #6

try using AI Focus instead of servo?


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Oct 17, 2008 12:23 |  #7

Simple, 1d focusing system has been the same professional level system for over a decade. No way a consumer camera will match it. 1dmkii sounds like a perfect match for you.


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Oct 17, 2008 12:30 |  #8

Probably just me but for some reason, when I try to read the EXIF w/ my image viewer, it says both images were taken w/ the 20D @ 1/4s.

Guess my kohmpootah's being screwy.


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Oct 17, 2008 12:31 |  #9

Ah, that must be it! I have a 20D with a 40D label! :D


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Oct 17, 2008 12:32 |  #10

Hahaha... how would you explain the first pic. hard to relabel a 20D -> 1D. ;)


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Oct 17, 2008 12:38 |  #11

Cl!ckFoto wrote in post #6512907 (external link)
try using AI Focus instead of servo?

It'd be worse from my experience.




  
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Oct 17, 2008 12:56 |  #12

well then, nevermind!


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Oct 17, 2008 13:21 |  #13

For comparison puposes the pair of photos above is not valid. The first was shot at 1/800 and the second at 1/400. With a running subject my experience is that 1/400 is kind of borderline and may well be the reason for the difference between the two. I see you had the 1D's ISO at 400 and the 40D at 160. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot the 40D at ISO 400 in order to get the needed shutter speed.


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Oct 17, 2008 14:50 |  #14

tzalman wrote in post #6513237 (external link)
The first was shot at 1/800 and the second at 1/400.

Plus the second shot is f/3.2 -vs- f/4 in the 1D shot. So you're really handicapping the 40D there, less DOF and less speed to freeze the motion...

What are you seeing, not sharp at ALL, or not sharp enough? The 1D is a much sharper body because of it's CCD sensor and weak AA filter. So it's images will be sharper compared to a 40D at 100%, but realize it's 4mp -vs- 10mp. Print both at the same print size and see how they look.

If you're getting OOF shots that are unusably soft, then, yeah, you have an issue, but of these 2 shots, the camera settings could account for it, and you could certainly sharpen either of those to make them usable in a print.


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Oct 17, 2008 15:00 |  #15

I have both the 40D and the 1D classic. Sit down and take a deep breath. The fact is, that 8 year old 1D is still the better camera. :mrgreen:


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