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A couple of low light pictures to look at.

 
2004ep3hatch
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Oct 18, 2008 21:08 |  #1

Hey guys

Well i took a few pics on the carnival miracle last night. Got back today. Just wanted you guys to let me know how these look. All shot with high iso and no flash and handheld.

These are random pictures from the ship. Any advice on shooting low conditions where a flash can not be used.

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Oct 18, 2008 21:34 |  #2

Sadly, the 24-105L is not the greatest choice for low light photography unless you have a tripod. This is something that I realized as soon as i bought my 24-105 and took it to a graduation that wasn't well lit.

That aside, doing F4 @ 1/10 is a bit slow, so you'll unless you're really steady, you'll get a little blur. was there anything around that you could have used to steady your camera while taking the shot?

a few other suggestions:
1. jumping up to ISO800
2. shoot in raw, underexpose a stop or 2 to get a faster shutter speed, and get the exposure back in PP.
3. tripod / mirror lockup / shutter release remote
4. save up for a good lens you can use in low light situations, like a 24-70L F2.8 or even a nifty-fifty (since the 24-70 is not a cheap lens)

just keep in mind that you can adjust the exposure, levels, etc., but you can't save a blurred shot. I like the first 3 shots, but i wish they were a bit sharper and a little brighter.


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Oct 18, 2008 21:50 |  #3

Your ISO settings were actually all over the map from 100 to 1000, and the shutter speeds were all about 2 f-stops slower than anyone should be using (1/10" - 1/20"), but you got away with it.

The pictures are all excellent exposures and you got what looks to be good color balance. I thought you were using an IS lens, but apparently you were not. I don't know how you got away with it.


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Oct 18, 2008 22:15 |  #4

hecster wrote in post #6520112 (external link)
Sadly, the 24-105L is not the greatest choice for low light photography unless you have a tripod. This is something that I realized as soon as i bought my 24-105 and took it to a graduation that wasn't well lit.

That aside, doing F4 @ 1/10 is a bit slow, so you'll unless you're really steady, you'll get a little blur. was there anything around that you could have used to steady your camera while taking the shot?

a few other suggestions:
1. jumping up to ISO800
2. shoot in raw, underexpose a stop or 2 to get a faster shutter speed, and get the exposure back in PP.
3. tripod / mirror lockup / shutter release remote
4. save up for a good lens you can use in low light situations, like a 24-70L F2.8 or even a nifty-fifty (since the 24-70 is not a cheap lens)

just keep in mind that you can adjust the exposure, levels, etc., but you can't save a blurred shot. I like the first 3 shots, but i wish they were a bit sharper and a little brighter.

Thankyou for the advice. No i did not take my tripod. I had my camera on me all the time. It would have been hard to travel the boat with a camera and tripod :lol:. Maybe on my next long cruise i will do so. I just tried to lock my arms up and hold steady without breathing for my shots. I never realized you can get back EXP in post process. Im new to RAW editing. All i have is the canon softwear nothing better.

I have never used mirror lockup, Ill look into this and see what its about. I belive i shoot these in RAW as well. If i have them would you like one of them to mess around with?

Robert_Lay wrote in post #6520199 (external link)
Your ISO settings were actually all over the map from 100 to 1000, and the shutter speeds were all about 2 f-stops slower than anyone should be using (1/10" - 1/20"), but you got away with it.

The pictures are all excellent exposures and you got what looks to be good color balance. I thought you were using an IS lens, but apparently you were not. I don't know how you got away with it.

Yea i was trying out Different ISO's to see what effects i would have. I was afraid of to much noise since i dont have a FF. Yes my lens is IS. I appretiate your comments guys. More pics to come soon :)


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Oct 19, 2008 12:04 |  #5

I never realized you can get back EXP in post process. Im new to RAW editing. All i have is the canon softwear nothing better.

I haven't used the Canon software for doing any pp, so i'm not sure how much it allows you to do. Might want to look into picking up a copy of LightRoom or Photoshop.

I took your casino shot and tried to brighten it up a little (hope you don't mind). Just did a little sharpening and then brightened it up a little. I tried not to go overboard with the brightness to keep the ambient atmosphere's feel..

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Tucking my arms in, not breathing, and trying to remain completely still is a skill i don't have. Breathing out slowly and squeezing the shutter at the same time works for me sometimes. I'm trying to get better at that.

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Oct 19, 2008 13:35 as a reply to  @ hecster's post |  #6

Hey man

Oh its ok, edit all you want! Im going to see if i can get some software to try. If you want the raw file i can give it to you. I think i did take these in raw as well.

These pics might look cool as a HDR. I'm reading a lot about these lately.

Yea thing thing i notice is when trying to shoot very steady sometimes can be hard. After i push the shutter i try so hard not to move the camera. My tripod would have been the perfect tool but did not have it.

I was in debate when buying my lens and thought the 24-105l would be perfect for my all around pics. I will be getting my 100 2.8 prime macro soon.


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marcus769
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Oct 19, 2008 22:01 |  #7

Nice pics for what you had to work with!


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Oct 20, 2008 14:19 |  #8

Using a higher ISO will allow you to get faster shutter speeds..... ;)

2004ep3hatch wrote in post #6520316 (external link)
Yea i was trying out Different ISO's to see what effects i would have.




  
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