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To Filter or Not to Filter - That is the question...

 
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Oct 21, 2008 04:53 |  #1

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One common advice we hear from photographers is to immediately purchase a skylight or UV filter to protect our lenses. The premise is simple, a clear filter is a cheaper replacement than a damaged front lens element. Most UV filters are bought mainly for protective purposes only these days as UV doesn’t seem to affect digital images anyway.


There are, however, those who will insist that adding a piece of glass in front of a precision-engineered lens will alter the light rays no matter how good the filter is. In addition, quite a number of photographers will also note that filters will induce flare because the lens’ front element is designed to reflect a certain wavelength of light and the filter will actually bounce it back to the lens, and so on.

My philosophy with UV filters is simple, if the glass is large enough and protrudes enough, I’ll use a filter. I’m a rough user and unless it’s a macro lens where the element is deeply recessed, or a cheap lens, or a lens that I’ll never use without a deep lens hood (like telephotos), I prefer to use a filter due to my careless nature.


So today, I tried a simple test on a Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM (external link) lens shooting still subjects with a relatively large light-source close to the lens using different apertures with both filter-on, and filter-off. The filter used is an entry level Hoya Standard UV filter.


I’ll let you draw your own conclusion based on the gallery below. You can see the EXIF by clicking on the images. They are sorted by Filter On, then Filter Off with similar exposures.


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My conclusion, at least for this lens/filter combination, is that the differences can be seen, especially when scrutinized at 100%, but hardly visible enough to say that the difference is pronounced. This could simply be a lens issue, though. I’m pretty sure that different lenses will behave differently, as well as different filters may produce different results as well.
In this case, the image quality differences are minimal, if not negligible. Some images at wide-angle have a little sharpness loss with the filter on, but flare differences are minimal.


A filter may protect the front element from day-to-day scuffs and smudges, it’ll also save the front element from microscopic rub marks from brushes and lens cloths, but in some cases, a filter may cause more damage compared to a more direct impact to the lens. Whether a filter is worth it or not, it’s up to you to decide.




  
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Oct 21, 2008 05:16 |  #2

This has been beaten to death already. It's like coke vs. pepsi. Which one is better. Depends on who you ask and what they value more. Taste and classy ads or something from the sewage. :P

ps. I prefer coke!


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Oct 21, 2008 06:02 |  #3

coke +1

filters = undecided


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Oct 21, 2008 06:07 |  #4

theveed wrote in post #6533095 (external link)
Whether a filter is worth it or not, it’s up to you to decide.

??? Been beaten to death many times over, with the same conclusion...not sure what the point was.


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Oct 21, 2008 07:58 |  #5

check out this thread
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Oct 21, 2008 08:57 |  #6

I like filters
I don't like filters
I like filters
I don't like filters
Oh heck I don't know any more. :D


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Oct 21, 2008 09:31 |  #7

coke +1

and it's a filtered life for me




  
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Oct 21, 2008 09:37 |  #8

:D

Familiaphoto wrote in post #6533845 (external link)
I like filters
I don't like filters
I like filters
I don't like filters
Oh heck I don't know any more. :D

:D ...nice one


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Oct 21, 2008 10:09 |  #9

Why didnt you try a high end filter, like a B+W MRC, in a test like this? The fact that you used a lower end one kind of discredits your test all together. The fact that this test has been done 9 million times before and that this topic has been extremely beaten to death discredits the subject.


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Oct 21, 2008 11:16 |  #10
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depends on which filters you use.....




  
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Oct 21, 2008 11:54 |  #11

ben_r_ wrote in post #6534263 (external link)
Why didnt you try a high end filter, like a B+W MRC, in a test like this? The fact that you used a lower end one kind of discredits your test all together. The fact that this test has been done 9 million times before and that this topic has been extremely beaten to death discredits the subject.

I tend to agree that you prejudiced your test by using a cheap filter. Those of us who use and recommend filters are careful to specify B+W MRC, Heliopan SH-PMC or Hoya S-HMC or DMC filters. There's no comparison between quality multicoated filters and the cheaper filters out there.


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Oct 21, 2008 12:18 |  #12

Roy Webber wrote in post #6534074 (external link)
:D
:D ...nice one

Thanks.

Jon wrote in post #6534819 (external link)
I tend to agree that you prejudiced your test by using a cheap filter. Those of us who use and recommend filters are careful to specify B+W MRC, Heliopan SH-PMC or Hoya S-HMC or DMC filters. There's no comparison between quality multicoated filters and the cheaper filters out there.

I agree with Jon. No matter how you end up in using filters or not, if you use a filter you should use the best available like a B+W MRC. Using one of these I have never been able to tell the difference with the filter being on or off. Once I had a Canon filter and could easily see the image degredation it introduced.


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Oct 21, 2008 15:08 |  #13

Familiaphoto wrote in post #6534948 (external link)
Using one of these I have never been able to tell the difference with the filter being on or off.

I have.
But I agree with the above posters: If you do a test, do a decent test, with decent filters.


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Oct 31, 2008 13:58 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #14

B+W MRC filters

and I like Pepsi ..:D


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Oct 31, 2008 14:02 |  #15

+1 for Coke.

Right now I only have the kit lens and the nifty fifty and a decent filter would cost as much as the lens, so no filter for me right now. But when I get better lenses, probably yes filter for me.


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