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Oct 31, 2008 14:27 |  #16

bought a B+W MRC for my 17-55. i only used it a few times at the beginning, but haven't used it since.

i'll probably just use it as my coke coaster :p




  
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Oct 31, 2008 14:58 |  #17

MeNiS wrote in post #6599288 (external link)
bought a B+W MRC for my 17-55. i only used it a few times at the beginning, but haven't used it since.

i'll probably just use it as my coke coaster :p

What do you mean used it a few times? Your supposed to put in on the lens and leave it there permanently...


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Oct 31, 2008 15:15 |  #18

There's one thing that is not debatable. Leaving a filter off won't make your pictures worse. Putting a filter on can, with varying degrees, make your picture worse.

I choose not to use filters. Partially because of reason above and I've only touched the front element of a lens I was using once and that was with my index finger so I wiped the fingerprint off.




  
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Nov 01, 2008 05:03 |  #19

I took the filter off the 70-200 and 50, as the 70-200 has a very deep hood, and the 50 is worth less than the filter (oops lol). The 17-40 will keep it's filter for weather sealing and due to its shallow hood


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Nov 01, 2008 08:20 |  #20

theveed wrote in post #6533095 (external link)
by David Tong


One common advice we hear from photographers is to immediately purchase a skylight or UV filter to protect our lenses. The premise is simple, a clear filter is a cheaper replacement than a damaged front lens element. Most UV filters are bought mainly for protective purposes only these days as UV doesn’t seem to affect digital images anyway.


There are, however, those who will insist that adding a piece of glass in front of a precision-engineered lens will alter the light rays no matter how good the filter is. In addition, quite a number of photographers will also note that filters will induce flare because the lens’ front element is designed to reflect a certain wavelength of light and the filter will actually bounce it back to the lens, and so on.

My philosophy with UV filters is simple, if the glass is large enough and protrudes enough, I’ll use a filter. I’m a rough user and unless it’s a macro lens where the element is deeply recessed, or a cheap lens, or a lens that I’ll never use without a deep lens hood (like telephotos), I prefer to use a filter due to my careless nature.


So today, I tried a simple test on a Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM (external link) lens shooting still subjects with a relatively large light-source close to the lens using different apertures with both filter-on, and filter-off. The filter used is an entry level Hoya Standard UV filter.


I’ll let you draw your own conclusion based on the gallery below. You can see the EXIF by clicking on the images. They are sorted by Filter On, then Filter Off with similar exposures.


See gallery here... The gallery won't embed in the forum, sorry (external link)

My conclusion, at least for this lens/filter combination, is that the differences can be seen, especially when scrutinized at 100%, but hardly visible enough to say that the difference is pronounced. This could simply be a lens issue, though. I’m pretty sure that different lenses will behave differently, as well as different filters may produce different results as well.
In this case, the image quality differences are minimal, if not negligible. Some images at wide-angle have a little sharpness loss with the filter on, but flare differences are minimal.


A filter may protect the front element from day-to-day scuffs and smudges, it’ll also save the front element from microscopic rub marks from brushes and lens cloths, but in some cases, a filter may cause more damage compared to a more direct impact to the lens. Whether a filter is worth it or not, it’s up to you to decide.

David, thanks for your write-up but you should probably read the protective filter FAQ linked in my sig, and the referenced links.

What you have discovered is not news, if you use a cheap single coat filter then some effect can be seen.

I am surprised you did not see more effect from the lens alone, the 24-105 was one of the worst L lenses for flare I tested, and a good quality filter did not make even a second order difference in the response.

Lots of tests like that here http://www.zen20934.ze​n.co.uk …LensTests/Flare​/index.htm (external link)


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