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Oct 27, 2008 13:50 |  #1

Say I'm getting a bunch of photos printed (either online or at a store)...
I only want 4"x6" prints.

Say all my pics are full res (15 MP) images/jpegs.

Image quality-wise, is it advantageous to downsize the pics to 1200x1800 (300dpi) and then have them printed - assuming the printer they use recommends 300dpi?

Obviously there's an advantage for size of the files and therefore upload time.

But strictly image-quality???

If I'm taking them on a USB stick to the store to print, then the speed issue is insignficant... So basically, is there a reason to go through the hassle of making another copy of everything at 1200x1800?

(Of course, this then applies to resizing to 1500x2100 for 5"x7" prints... etc.)

Would my downsizing via Photoshop CS3/CS4 or Lightroom be "better" then them (the store) doing it however they do it to get it to the printer?

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Oct 27, 2008 13:57 |  #2

Call them and request details on their printing process? Odds are that it's a lot higher than 300dpi.


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Oct 27, 2008 14:09 |  #3

Assuming identical proportions between your original file and the output size, I see no reason other than speed, unless you want to apply specific sharpening to the resized file (which you can't control when you drop images off for printing). However, cropping could be an issue as the proportions of a 5x7, 8x10, and 4x6 are all different - so something has to change there...


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Oct 27, 2008 14:27 |  #4

I would do the resizing before sending. Rather me than someone else.

It's extremely unlikely that they are using anything higher than 300 but call them and find out. If you can get the printer profile they are using, all the better. Whatever the answer, I would do it, rather than leave it up to their automated software.


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Oct 27, 2008 14:32 |  #5

I have in the past printed 12mp photo's on 4x6 with loss of quality, it was dissapointing now I resize them, otherwise they look pixelated which is dissapointing.




  
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Oct 27, 2008 14:53 as a reply to  @ rebecca12's post |  #6

Whenever I send anything for print, I do the resize before it goes. I like to control the quality and not leave it up to a machine operator.


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Oct 27, 2008 15:02 |  #7

bohdank wrote in post #6570738 (external link)
I would do the resizing before sending. Rather me than someone else.

ssim wrote in post #6570898 (external link)
Whenever I send anything for print, I do the resize before it goes. I like to control the quality and not leave it up to a machine operator.

Agree 100% with these comments. Plus, internet speeds are awful here in Australia (powered by hamsters on wheels, I think) so I need my file sizes to be no bigger than necessary.


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Oct 27, 2008 16:04 as a reply to  @ Damo77's post |  #8

Thanks for the feedback guys. So far it seems like downsizing them myself is majority recommendation...

And yes, Klynam, I realize if I need other sizes (5x7, 8x10, 8x12, etc.) I would need to crop & downsize to the different, corresponding sizes...




  
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Oct 27, 2008 17:33 |  #9

Resize, sharpen, send is my workflow.


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Oct 28, 2008 10:39 |  #10

BigDaveE wrote in post #6571332 (external link)
And yes, Klynam, I realize if I need other sizes (5x7, 8x10, 8x12, etc.) I would need to crop & downsize to the different, corresponding sizes...

I know, kind'a goes without saying...but you never know...


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Nov 01, 2008 13:24 |  #11

tim wrote in post #6571893 (external link)
Resize, sharpen, send is my workflow.

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Nov 01, 2008 16:07 as a reply to  @ yendikeno's post |  #12

White House Cutom Color (external link) gives guidance which says that they expect images croped to the size requested at 300 dpi and saved as a levle 10 jpeg. They claim there is no visible improvment for higher DPI or greator then level 10. The problem I have with local sources is to stop them from making adjustments to the images. Even if you tell them its not well controlled.


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Nov 01, 2008 20:00 |  #13

Easy and cheap enough to test. I recently uploaded some picture to Walgreens and they have a 5 times faster upload. So I tried it and then uploaded a full size. Big difference in quality.


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Nov 02, 2008 10:08 |  #14

If you are saying the full res was much better....that makes no sense unless they are processing all images through some, unknown, software.


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Nov 02, 2008 10:17 |  #15

Resize, sharpen, send is my workflow.

Me, too. Remember that you should sharpen for that final size if you want the best quality print. I never let the lab do anything but print with their "Auto-corrections" turned off.

Walgreens ... Big difference in quality.

I ran some tests with them & found a big difference in quality in the same print only an hour later!


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