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Mar 20, 2016 22:37 |  #4801

How do you guys decide where to put the focus point? I think I could have done a better job of that here....or maybe I could have done a better job with the placement of the berries.

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Mar 20, 2016 22:43 |  #4802

thenextguy wrote in post #17942575 (external link)
How do you guys decide where to put the focus point? I think I could have done a better job of that here....or maybe I could have done a better job with the placement of the berries.

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I don't know what those guys would do, but I'd focus one and a half berries in front of where you did.


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Mar 20, 2016 22:59 |  #4803

I think your focus is fine ... at the choosen focal length I would have probably stopped down to f/8 or possibly f/11.


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Mar 21, 2016 09:23 |  #4804

Reminds me of one of my first food shots, I went pretty shallow and used a Canon 100 Macro.


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Mar 21, 2016 12:08 |  #4805

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I think your focus is fine ... at the choosen focal length I would have probably stopped down to f/8 or possibly f/11.

Yes, I'd prefer a deeper field for this kind of shot. Maybe not so deep as f/8, though, maybe about f/4. However, shallow fields are in style, as if to mimic what an extremely myopic person would see. I think when the field is very shallow, focusing near the front of the food is better than focusing near the middle. Just my opinions. There are certainly people here who have more experience with food (more experience shooting it, not necessarily more experience eating it).


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Mar 21, 2016 12:15 |  #4806

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Yes, I'd prefer a deeper field for this kind of shot. Maybe not so deep as f/8, though, maybe about f/4.

It was shot at f/5.6.

But I get the overall point. More depth of field. f/8 probably would have been good.

I think part of what screws up the shot a bit is that there are some blueberries in the front (about 3/4 of the way through) that are blocking the plane of focus.

Gotta work on my berry placement!


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Mar 21, 2016 12:20 |  #4807

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It was shot at f/5.6.

Then you must have been very close? Optics isn't my long suit.


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Mar 21, 2016 12:21 |  #4808

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Then you must have been very close? Optics isn't my long suit.

Macro lens! :lol:


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Mar 21, 2016 14:47 |  #4809

thenextguy wrote in post #17942575 (external link)
How do you guys decide where to put the focus point? I think I could have done a better job of that here....or maybe I could have done a better job with the placement of the berries.

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I think it's a very nice image. One thing to point out is that the one blueberry that is in the center, sharpest focus, probably isn't the best one in the bowl; it seems a bit shriveled.

FWIW, I struggle with focus placement all the time. I don't think there's a universal rule, and typically I know where it's best only when I see it.

A few things I try to keep in mind:

First and foremost for me is application and layout. In some instances, the food item is going to be silhouetted into an ad or package. Sometimes a soft edge can get a little wonky when it's cut out, but it really depends on a lot of other factors. In other cases, it might be for a magazine ad that has the ability to be a little softer in mood and focus.

If it's a plate where I'm looking to separate the foreground (main item) from the back elements (secondary items) than the answer is obvious, as in to draw attention away from one thing and toward another.

If it's a plate or food item where all of the elements are the same (pepperoni pizza), I'll go either in one or two directions; either all in focus or limit the focus to the front third or so, with the thinking that once you've seen one you've seen them all...and that it's sometimes easy to lose the forrest for the trees. Again it depends on other factors. If it's going to be in a menu, on a menu board or package, sometimes crisper is better imo due to the nature of the final use. Too soft a focus can be ambiguous in some cases.

Depending on the style of image we're looking to create- There was a time not too long ago when it seemed as if food photography fell into 2 distinct camps: editorial where selective, softer focus was king and created more of a mood with less focus (no pun intended) on the food itself , and 'commercial' where the goal was to show every detail in crisp focus and mood was secondary. Those worlds have obviously blended and the selective focus things has made way for a tighter focus in an overall softer environment while the commercial work seems to still be about details in crisp focus imo.

The bottom line for me in virtually every photograph I take is to really look at it and decide if the focus placement is right for what I want and change it if it isn't.


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Mar 21, 2016 20:22 |  #4810

Grilled and hickory smoked a nice thick ribeye steak for dinner tonight.

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Looks just right to me!

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Mar 22, 2016 00:19 |  #4811

Re Focus I go with Foodguy. If there is a lot of the same the DOF can be shallower then when there is a lot of different things on a plate. With a plate with a lot of variety I usually use F/11 and focus at the centre and at plate level. With a distance of 60 - 80 cm and a focal length of 50 - 70 mm, that usually brings most of the plate - even "heaped food " - in focus.


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Mar 22, 2016 01:50 |  #4812

Foodguy wrote in post #17943320 (external link)
I think it's a very nice image. One thing to point out is that the one blueberry that is in the center, sharpest focus, probably isn't the best one in the bowl; it seems a bit shriveled.

This. It really jumped out at me.


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Mar 22, 2016 12:52 |  #4813

Working on a little project today.


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Mar 22, 2016 18:48 |  #4814

shot some OJ


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Mar 24, 2016 07:16 |  #4815

navydoc wrote in post #17943749 (external link)
Grilled and hickory smoked a nice thick ribeye steak for dinner tonight.

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Looks just right to me!

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That looks very good!!! am hungry now :D




  
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