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Goldfinch (UK version) Question

 
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Nov 10, 2008 14:15 |  #1

Good evening people,

Does anyone know if the UK Goldfinch changes its plummage in winter?

The reason I ask is that we have loads of Goldfinches on our feeders but there are fewer and fewer with red heads. I know what a Juvenile looks like and most look like Juveniles.

I think they are juveniles but its just the high volume of them that has me wondering.

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Nov 10, 2008 16:57 |  #2

Hi, Adults moult after the breeding period which can be as early as July or as late as October. After moult the birds do appear a lot less colourful, until the tips of the newly grown feathers wear away, however if on close inspection the cap of the bird is completely sandy brown then yes they are juvenille birds. Hope that helps.:)




  
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Nov 12, 2008 15:47 |  #3

Great, thanks Alex.

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Nov 19, 2008 13:41 as a reply to  @ da_nige's post |  #4

Hi Neil,

Try this link and I hope it'll help you http://www.rspb.org.uk …ame/g/goldfinch​/index.asp (external link)

Also heres a link to the RSPBs birds by name pages where you get illustrations and also sound clips and sometimes video of the different birds going about their business, you just click on the letter for the specific type of bird your looking for and hopefully it'll be in their list http://www.rspb.org.uk …irdguide/name/a​/index.asp (external link) also birds by family http://www.rspb.org.uk​/wildlife/birdguide/fa​milies/ (external link) also a cool bird identifier if you don't know the name or breed of bird your looking for http://www.rspb.org.uk​/wildlife/birdidentifi​er/ (external link)

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Nov 19, 2008 15:15 |  #5

Thanks Jim, its the RSPB site I use. Some of the birds it shows you the difference between male and female or winter and summer plummage but with the Goldfinch it shows adult and young.

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Nov 27, 2008 09:47 as a reply to  @ da_nige's post |  #6

If I may ask, are UK Goldfinches the same as North American Goldfinches? I've attached a photo below to reference the American Goldfinches that we have here in Canada, and I want to be certain I'm thinking of the right bird before I reply. Also, if someone can post a photo of a UK goldfinch, it would be most appreciated!

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Nov 27, 2008 10:08 |  #7

Hi Attila,

No they are different birds. ours have red in them too,

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Nov 28, 2008 16:22 |  #8

Adult Goldfinches have one complete moult each year after breeding so they look essentially the same all the year round; there is no separate winter plumage.

The books tell you that the juveniles acquire their red and black heads in August - September, but, as far as the juveniles visiting my garden are concerned, this seems to be getting later every year. Only last week I saw one with a still rather poorly developed red face. Nevertheless I don't think I have ever seen one still looking totally juvenile at the end of November.


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Nov 29, 2008 09:55 |  #9

Jack Dawe wrote in post #6775220 (external link)
Adult Goldfinches have one complete moult each year after breeding so they look essentially the same all the year round; there is no separate winter plumage.

The books tell you that the juveniles acquire their red and black heads in August - September, but, as far as the juveniles visiting my garden are concerned, this seems to be getting later every year. Only last week I saw one with a still rather poorly developed red face. Nevertheless I don't think I have ever seen one still looking totally juvenile at the end of November.

Down here they seem to have extended their breeding season. I saw real babies the first week in October.


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