Edgewater (Manual Exposure)

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It's a lovely scene, and I think you did it justice.

I like it. There is some tilt and lens distortion. I also am not sure about that blue frame.

Did you use fill flash on the trees and rocks? They look bright compared to the overall light of the scene, especially with the sun on the horizon and behind the clouds.

midnitejam wrote in post #6668532
Comments ??

Time: 07:07 pm
Manual Exposure
1/160
f/8 (Kit Lens)
ISO 100
WB -1

Well, the only negative comment I really have on the image itself is it looks like your horizon is tilted just a bit...maybe a degree or two. I would ask though...did you use flash to brighten up the foreground just a bit? The rocks look really nice, but the leaves on the trees there almost look just a little bright....doesn't really look bad or anything, but it did catch my eye.

Interestingly enough what caught my attention about your post here was the title "Edgewater". The first thing that came to my mind was Edgewater Park in Cleveland up near Lakewood and I figured "Nahh...couldn't be". LOL!!! Jam...of all the times I've looked at and/or commented on your work, I never realized you were in Parma!!! I actually grew up in Parma and am currantly out here in Lorain! We'll have to get together one of these days for a cup of coffee and maybe go out shooting afterward. I've never shot out at Edgewater (yet) but I have shot at Lakewood Park, Avon Lake and of course Lakeview out here in Lorain. Most of my Heron shots earlier this year were all taken at the marina out here in Lorain...also a nice place to shoot (especially in the spring before the boats start hitting the water). And of course, I'm usually out at the Cleveland Zoo quite a bit too .

BTW...if that is Edgewater Park.....did you shoot that earlier this year and if not, where did you find a spot where the trees were actually "green"? Everything out here in Lorain is pretty much well past the typical "autumn" colors...in fact the trees are getting pretty bare! LOL!!!

Anyways...nice shot. Well done!
Peace,
Jim

I can say that i agree with all of the above posts...Blue frame is not doing the photo justice...needs to rotate CC just a Tad...

I think you hit the exposure dead on...I love that there are no blown out highlights in the sky/reflection...somet​hing I have been working on myself!! Nice Job.

It's a blended exposure with plenty of masking/extra layers. Notice the brush on right front, where they're grey at rock level but amid the water they're completely black. The leaves on the left top corner and where they meet the water also show the blending. It just needs more careful, precision tweaking.

Metalstrm wrote in post #6671465
I like it. There is some tilt and lens distortion. I also am not sure about that blue frame.

It does need to be leveled..

Not sure about this one...I like the scene.but it doesn't make me want to "stay" you know what I mean?

Having the foreground bright, leaves the vista somewhat flat to me...just me maybe.

Walczak Photo wrote in post #6672163
Well, the only negative comment I really have on the image itself is it looks like your horizon is tilted just a bit...maybe a degree or two. I would ask though...did you use flash to brighten up the foreground just a bit? The rocks look really nice, but the leaves on the trees there almost look just a little bright....doesn't really look bad or anything, but it did catch my eye.

Interestingly enough what caught my attention about your post here was the title "Edgewater". The first thing that came to my mind was Edgewater Park in Cleveland up near Lakewood and I figured "Nahh...couldn't be". LOL!!! Jam...of all the times I've looked at and/or commented on your work, I never realized you were in Parma!!! I actually grew up in Parma and am currantly out here in Lorain! We'll have to get together one of these days for a cup of coffee and maybe go out shooting afterward. I've never shot out at Edgewater (yet) but I have shot at Lakewood Park, Avon Lake and of course Lakeview out here in Lorain. Most of my Heron shots earlier this year were all taken at the marina out here in Lorain...also a nice place to shoot (especially in the spring before the boats start hitting the water). And of course, I'm usually out at the Cleveland Zoo quite a bit too .

BTW...if that is Edgewater Park.....did you shoot that earlier this year and if not, where did you find a spot where the trees were actually "green"? Everything out here in Lorain is pretty much well past the typical "autumn" colors...in fact the trees are getting pretty bare! LOL!!!

Anyways...nice shot. Well done!
Peace,
Jim

Thanks for the comments, everyone. So many times I've posted shots that I absolutely adore only to have them cut to shreads (always justified). And when I post one for critique and get this much approval...well, its moving.

I used a Sunpak 522 flash that was shot through a cokin diffuser and used as a manual off-camera fill. The EXIF doesn't recognize the Sunpak and that's why you pixel peepers will see "NO FLASH" in the exif. Oh, and let me mention that it was also post edited before someone accuses me of fibbing or some form of missrepresentation

Jim, the shot was made in 2005, but I shoot there at Edgewater lots. You can get totally different images from the same spot on different days according to the current weather conditions there at Edgewater. I've also found that the same dynamic conditions exist at Huntington Beach (Bay Village), E 72nd pier, and Washington park in Lakewood. I get totally different shots at these places from day to day.

Lakewood is in the far left distance in this image.

I have recently become the newest (42nd member) in a new photography club that meets in Brunswick. Membership is free. I'm planning to do my first walk with them on Nov 15.
contact Mark at "Metro Photography Enthusiasts Group" (MPEG)
mpeg@earthlink.net

Good eye, Form. Now that I look more closely, the leaves also where they overlap with the silhouetted spits of land are black and you can see some edge artifacts between the rocks and the water on the right side.

Oh! I forgot to ask....
What will be the best solution to fixing this image? If I correct the horizon, will it justify the tradeoff of loss of image quality from re-saving and re-compressing the jpg? Or should I leave it the way it is with the tilted horizon?

Maybe I'm just spoiled by where I live, but besides the technicalities, I just don't find the scene interesting.
I think the foreground as light as it is, distracts from the sky, which is the focal point by your composition. The messy thorns/weeds and stuff in the foreground takes away from the shot. The borders around the leaves looks unnatural also and leaves being that bright fights against your focal point.
Yeah, the blue border doesn't work.

Overall I like the image. Would be better without the weeds in front, and agree that the blue border should go.

midnitejam wrote in post #6673332
Jim, the shot was made in 2005, but I shoot there at Edgewater lots. You can get totally different images from the same spot on different days according to the current weather conditions there at Edgewater. I've also found that the same dynamic conditions exist at Huntington Beach (Bay Village), E 72nd pier, and Washington park in Lakewood. I get totally different shots at these places from day to day.

I guess that's one of the nice things about the weather here in Ohio (one of the few nice things about it I might add! LOL!)...makes for some interesting landscape photography and as you say, things can look totally different from day to day even from the exact same location.

I've actually shot down at Huntington myself from time to time...I do animal care volunteer work at the Lake Erie Nature and Science Center just up the road from there so I'm usually out that way every week . The only down side about Huntington is those d@mn stairs to get down to the beach! Very often I have my dogs with me and my oldest dog is recovering from a spine injury so I have to carry her up and down those stairs....along with all my photo gear...get's tough on the knees and back after a bit.

Oddly enough I've lived in Northern Ohio here all my life...the first 25 years in Parma and the last 18 here in Lorain and in all that time I've only been to Edgewater once...and that was for a 4th of July fireworks display some 16 odd years ago. I may have to head out there come spring and "see what I can see".


Not to steal your thread or anything, but here's a similar shot that I got out there at Lakewood Park last summer....

I have recently become the newest (42nd member) in a new photography club that meets in Brunswick. Membership is free. I'm planning to do my first walk with them on Nov 15.
contact Mark at "Metro Photography Enthusiasts Group" (MPEG)
peg@earthlink.net

If Brunswick wasn't such a drive for me, I might check it out. I used to work out there off 303 when we first moved out here to Lorain so I know it's a good hour + drive...a bit much for a photography club meeting. Good luck with them though...I look forward to seeing some shots from that walk!

Well...since you're asking this question, I'm guessing this image wasn't shot in RAW? If that's the case...and this is just my opinion as always but personally I'd say yes...rotate it. A lot of folks get really hung up on the "lossy" aspects of jpeg, but the truth is you really have to save the image over and over again...usually several times before you really start to see a difference (depending on your compression settings of course). Before I got into the DSLR's I used to work exclusively in jpeg as that's all my cameras would support and I used to do just as much pixel pushing and pulling as I do now (comparatively speaking of course...you can do more with 10 megapixels than you can with 4 or 5 obviously). I've always had a hard time keeping my horizons level and always end up fixing them later in pp...darned Japanese tripods with one short leg I guess! LOL!!! Seriously...unless you're looking to print a poster size print with this, I'd just straighten it and don't worry about it.

Peace,
Jim

What do you mean by manual exposure?