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50D - 30 Days Later Impressions

 
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Nov 12, 2008 07:58 |  #1

First, let me start off with that these are purely my opinions, and should be used for what they are worth. As background, I bought a 50D a little over a month ago. I currently have a 10D, 20D, 5D, ID mk IIn's (x2), and a Nikon D3, so that is what I am basing my comments on.

For the first time buyer or someone moving up from the XXXd models

This is a perfectly capable camera. It does just about everything well. Shutter lag is almost non-existent, focus is very fast, and it pretty much does everything you want it to do. ISO performance in real world use if very acceptable up to ISO 1600. Above that it becomes very tricky. It will deal with noise, but you had better nail the exposure otherwise it is utterly unimpressive. Viewfinder is acceptably bright and usable. Size and weight are just about right. Given the competition between it and the D300 from Nikon and the recent price reductions with the Nikon, I would let lens choice be your driver here. The D300 (yes I have shot it) is a slightly better camera, but each is about equal when you get to the point of putting pixels on screen or in print. The Nikon shares more stuff with its big brother, but it comes at a cost. Not huge, but it is there. But the Canon is a very good camera for 90% of the people out there. It covers all the bases pretty well and I would have no issues recommending it. The one cautionary part is if you want to use 15 mpx, make sure your lens is up to it. In the past, the difference between my Sigma 70-200 and Canon sister lens was pretty much unnoticable. But at 15 mpx, the canon is starting to show off a bit more. Lenses are starting to show their weeknesses at that resoution. In the final print, it isn't noticable, but on screen during editing, you see it.

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Here the story changes dramatically. I just finished reviewing my shots from the last month getting them ready for storage, and one thing that hit me squarely in the face. The 50D does not enable me to do anything I couldn't do with my older 20D. Sure the review screen is better, but I wouldn't rely on it for focus check. The menus are different - not better or worse. Either are easy to navigate once you have learned them. The 50D does everything a little better. Focus slows down less in low light, but it still slows down. Shutter lag is gone. All the other problems still exist. I still need to pop the battery when using non-Canon brand batteries from time to time. It is nice that it shares many of the accesories of the other Canons, but it isn't a system like the Nikon family is. I have found some older accesories also will not play nice with the 50D. Both my Sigma 1.4 tx and 2 x TX loose autofocus even when used with my fast lenses. My Canon 28 f1.8 won't work at all. I hate that lens, so no big deal to me though. Don't get me wrong, the camera feels good. But if you have a 20/30/40D, I would NOT recommend upgraded to the 50D. Again, in true Canon style, there are improvements, but the are small and in ways that don't help the image. If anything, I am still able to squeze out more workable images from my 20D than I can files from the 50D when shooting at ISO 1600 in action based shooting. The files seem more foregiving. Studio shots and the like where you can make sure you have the exposure dialed in, the 50D does produce very nice images all the way up through the to H2. If that is what you do, it will out perform the older cameras. But you have to have the exposure dialed in perfectly. If you have a xxD based camera, and looking to upgrade, go to the 5D, thats where you will see true differences.

Just my two cents worth.




  
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Nov 12, 2008 08:19 |  #2

Great write up! Thank you!

I was looking to upgrade my 30D and thought about getting the 50D. I think I will look more towards the 1D2N or 5D.


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Nov 12, 2008 08:33 as a reply to  @ kevinmcdade's post |  #3

Keep your 30D as a backup. I have a 20D and a 40D. Unless I'm looking for an extra edge on large print quality, better dynamic range, or major wildlife crops, my 20D is my prime 50% of the time.


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Nov 12, 2008 08:48 |  #4

I just received my 50D after sale of my 30D, and it already seems like a very welcome upgrade to me. I like being able to control the flash in body, the 6.5fps, the LCD is great, lens adjustment is a godsend (especially after sending 3 lenses into Canon already), live view is nifty and seems like it could be helpful in certain settings (especially macro).

Also, I downsized some 50D files to my 30D's native resolution, and it blew the 30D away. I'm still waiting to do some more shooting until I really judge this camera though.


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Nov 12, 2008 09:11 |  #5

Interesting post. A couple of weeks back I was in the process of upgrading and went to try a 50D. It is indeed a GREAT camera but I didn't notice a big difference with my good old 20D.

I ended up choosing a 5D, not because I felt the 50D was a bad camera... it was just because it was a better upgrade for what I like to do.


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Nov 12, 2008 11:00 |  #6

i agree with interesting post - but i see the up grade option (xxD) conclusion differently than op.
I have a 20d and 85 f1.8. compared to the 50D-85fi.8 combo - it will produce out of focus in close distance w/ f1.8-2.5 pictures because of front focus issue.

for me - jpeg out of the 20D are terrible compared to the 50D
- features: bigger screen (up res) help me catch issues before reviewing on PC.
- i do find ISO over 800 more usable on the 50D compared to the 20D.
- menu is much better w/ more depth than 20D.
- there are no RGB histograms on 20D

just my 2 cents....


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Nov 12, 2008 12:03 |  #7

Great review... I had the 20D and was thinking of getting the 50D for the new features but went for the 40D instead. Saved me lots of cash for some nice glass ;-)a


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Nov 12, 2008 14:02 as a reply to  @ pianomav's post |  #8

Yes, I somehow agree with OP. Since the 20D, Canon hasn't make any big step forward with the xxD series body. Sure each of the successor has some improvements and refinements, but at the end of the day, when you look at the output on screen, differences are small especially if you shoot RAW.


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Nov 12, 2008 14:30 as a reply to  @ eelnoraa's post |  #9

great review. i feel better about keeping my 30D and not ditching it for the new XXD. we'll see, though.


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Nov 12, 2008 15:56 |  #10

I'm just wondering with the focus micro adjustment, Canon just saved themselves a lot of money calibrating out of whack bodies and lenses AND got the customer to pay for it at the same time. Brilliant.

I'm not sure I would trust buying a used lens from a 50D owner.


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Nov 12, 2008 16:13 |  #11

I have not made the jump yet, to the 50D. As I am waiting to see a larger sampling of opinions and reviews. I currently shoot with the 40D and if all things in the 50D are as good as the 40D, then I would find the individual lens micro adjustment to be adequate reason to upgrade.


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Nov 12, 2008 17:09 as a reply to  @ cc10d's post |  #12

great review and very informative, especially given your knowledge of the various other cameras you've tried. thanks! we'll soon see as well how Canon does with the 5d mark II.




  
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Nov 12, 2008 17:19 |  #13

Croasdail wrote in post #6671785 (external link)
The 50D does not enable me to do anything I couldn't do with my older 20D. Just my two cents worth.


The autofocus is significantly better and faster. The ISO performance is better. Try shooting at ISO 12,800 with your 20D..........

I own, or have owned the 20D, 30D, 40D and 50D.




  
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Nov 12, 2008 17:21 |  #14

I have reached much different conclusions after buying the 50D. I have been using (2) 20Ds for about 3 years. I just got the 50D a couple of weeks ago, and the first thing I noticed was that when taking pictures of my dogs running (servo mode) the auto focus is MUCH faster, giving me a lot more keepers. Pictures over ISO 800 were not acceptable with the 20D, but my default setting ISO 1000 gives me better shutter speed with very good useable pictures. I will be selling the other 20D and getting another 50D as soon as I get my pennies together.


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Nov 12, 2008 17:28 |  #15

Good read, thanks for posting.

I was having such a hard time desiding between 50D or Nikon D300 for the bodies. But then i relized its more about the lens really what can give you the same results almost for eaither ones.


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