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Nov 13, 2008 10:17 |  #1

these pics were just for fun so nothing lost. I am curious as to why this picture looks so off. I want to learn what I did wrong here to avoid this in the future.

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Nov 13, 2008 11:02 |  #2

THe white balance is a little off.



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Nov 13, 2008 11:04 as a reply to  @ acchildress's post |  #3

Feels like the purple has overwhelmed the whole photo?


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Nov 13, 2008 11:06 |  #4

A more conclusive analysis could be made from a larger image. Any venture I could make while at this size would be guessing.


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Nov 13, 2008 11:11 |  #5

midnitejam wrote in post #6679110 (external link)
A more conclusive analysis could be made from a larger image. Any venture I could make while at this size would be guessing.


here is the large size out of camera. http://cryo-laboratory.com/uploade​r/files/6/IMG_2289.JPG (external link)


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Nov 13, 2008 11:16 as a reply to  @ midnitejam's post |  #6

It is a very good shot except that the white balance has not been adjusted to compensate for the color bias caused by the background color and possibly also the sweater. Here is an edit with a white balance adjustment.


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Nov 13, 2008 11:18 |  #7

Bill has turned your "barney got run over by a raindeer -- color problem photo" to a workable photo.


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Nov 13, 2008 11:28 |  #8

stathunter wrote in post #6679180 (external link)
Bill has turned your "barney got run over by a raindeer -- color problem photo" to a workable photo.

yes he did and it looks nice. I have fixed it in editing as well, but I wasn't sure exactly what happened to give it the color cast. I am a little new to studio photography. How do you go about getting the correct WB with strobes?


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Nov 13, 2008 11:34 |  #9

I like the edit, are you shooting in RAW? It will make adjusting the white balance so much easier. But I, too, am curious as to how you make the white balance correct from straight out of the camera...


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Nov 13, 2008 11:36 |  #10

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yes he did and it looks nice. I have fixed it in editing as well, but I wasn't sure exactly what happened to give it the color cast. I am a little new to studio photography. How do you go about getting the correct WB with strobes?

Take a test shot with a white balance card in the scene near the subject and use it to determine the white balance setting that should be applied to subsequent shots.


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Nov 13, 2008 13:08 |  #11

For perfect white balance EVERY time, meter the subject, set the camera aperture at the meter's suggestion, place an 18% gray card at the same place in the scene that you metered and shoot the card. Then check the image on the back of the camera to make sure there is no glare on the card. Then photograph away. In ACR click on the white balance eyedropper and then onto the gray card, then Select All and Synchronize. All of the images shot WITH THE SAME light source will have perfect white balance. If you change light sources shoot the card again.

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Nov 13, 2008 18:17 |  #12

Benji wrote in post #6679796 (external link)
For perfect white balance EVERY time, meter the subject, set the camera aperture at the meter's suggestion, place an 18% gray card at the same place in the scene that you metered and shoot the card. Then check the image on the back of the camera to make sure there is no glare on the card. Then photograph away. In ACR click on the white balance eyedropper and then onto the gray card, then Select All and Synchronize. All of the images shot WITH THE SAME light source will have perfect white balance. If you change light sources shoot the card again.

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An 18% gray card? Is that actually physically a card? If so, where can I get one?


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Nov 13, 2008 19:19 |  #13

ashjamesgav wrote in post #6681677 (external link)
An 18% gray card? Is that actually physically a card? If so, where can I get one?

Yes it is and your local camera shop should have one. If you read your manual, and no I am not being smart, you can set a custom white balance by shooting a piece of white paper, it works real well.

The are plenty white balance discussions on POTN under general photography questions.


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Nov 13, 2008 20:45 |  #14

kiwichris wrote in post #6682001 (external link)
Yes it is and your local camera shop should have one. If you read your manual, and no I am not being smart, you can set a custom white balance by shooting a piece of white paper, it works real well.

The are plenty white balance discussions on POTN under general photography questions.

Okay, great, I will check them out. White works just as well as the 18% gray, yes?


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Nov 13, 2008 22:10 |  #15

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Okay, great, I will check them out. White works just as well as the 18% gray, yes?

Formerly, I was a strong advocate of using only a white card, such as a GretagMacBeth White Balance card or even a plain white sheet of paper (not the bright white type of inkjet paper). I have since changed my mind after doing a number of experiments using a range of neutral gray references. The results showed that a gray card, as long as it is a good one without any color bias, works just about as well as the white balance card. I actually prefer using an Xrite Color Checker (same as Munsel and GretagMacBeth Color Checker) which has six neutral patches from white to black. I usually use the second or third lightest patch for white balancing. I have found some cheap 18% gray cards that are not the least bit neutral. While they would be satisfactory for setting exposure, they are not very good for setting white balance.


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