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Nov 14, 2008 08:53 |  #16

Michael_Lambert wrote in post #6684866 (external link)
I truely think you need to read up more on what RAW is and how it works to get a better understanding of what some are trying to say.

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Nov 14, 2008 08:54 as a reply to  @ egordon99's post |  #17

First off, your camera ONLY shoots RAW. When you select JPG, the camera takes the RAW data and pipes it into it's on-board JPG processor to generate the JPG "image" to save to the card.

When you shoot RAW, the RAW "data" goes directly to the card and is not an image.

To generate an image, you use a RAW processor (software on your PC) which turns the data into a viewable image, much like the camera's JPG processor. The difference is that YOU have complete control over the image generation process. You can change the white balance, adjust the contrast/brightness/bl​ack point/etc....

So you can leave these decisions up to the camera's little processor (and hope it makes the right decisions since they are irreversible), or save the decisions for later where YOU have complete control over it.

Think of film, do you want to just drop the roll off at the pharmacy and get a bunch of 4x6 prints back (and NO negatives)? Or do you want the negatives?




  
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Nov 14, 2008 08:55 |  #18

WHY DO YOU WANT TO EMAL THEM? (and to whom?)

Keflack wrote in post #6684878 (external link)
yes,i have great pic's in raw of canada..but i can't see them as thumbnail,what's the easiest way 2 email them




  
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Nov 14, 2008 08:55 |  #19

egordon99 wrote in post #6684874 (external link)
why do you want to email the RAW file to someone? The answer to that question will enlighten us as to what you know (or don't know) about what RAW actually is...

IMO the OP does not understand what RAW is and is thinking RAW is just a superior version of a JPEG format. They are not understanding that RAW is not a true image file but more a image negative that needs to be processed.


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Nov 14, 2008 08:56 as a reply to  @ post 6684874 |  #20

[Iegordon99 ..did you not see my very 1st post...hence the word,BEGINNER,all the photos i took are in raw.........]i am a beginner,with all my pic's in freakin raw.....]




  
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Nov 14, 2008 08:57 as a reply to  @ Keflack's post |  #21

Yes, I read all your posts, I just want to know why you want to email someone the RAW file? If I emailed a RAW file to someone (say my Mom....), all she would get is a 15 megabyte file with an unknown file extension, and no way for her to view/print it.




  
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Nov 14, 2008 08:59 as a reply to  @ post 6684874 |  #22

egordon99 ..my camera does not only shoot raw...it's a dig rebel 1000d,it shoots raw n jpeg combined,just raw,juat jpeg whatever i set it 2...




  
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Nov 14, 2008 09:00 |  #23

Keflack,

Yes we understand you are a beginner and yes we understand you shot raw.. What you are not understanding is what RAW is.

NO you can not view the thumbnail of a RAW file, Infact my Vista only shows the thumb nail as a blue icon saying CR2. or something like that.

YES raw is the best way to shoot IF you understand it and NO you don't so you are going to have a LARGE learning curve ahead of you! Do a batch convert of all your images to jpeg if you want to do what you are looking to do.

And read up on what RAW is and how it benefits photographers.. www.GOOGLE.com (external link) is your friend! Use them, abuse them and they will love you for it!


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Nov 14, 2008 09:01 |  #24

egordon99 is just trying to help.

they are asking why you want to email he raw files.. in the photography world thats a big no no. but also there are other technical reasons why they are asking.

we are all trying to help. sometimes that little bit of info will help us understand how you can get it over.

im sorry you are getting annoyed with us.. but we are only trying to help.

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Nov 14, 2008 09:03 as a reply to  @ Keflack's post |  #25

OK, We're REALLY trying to help you, but you're being a little defensive. Read my "essay" a few posts back. The main idea of it is that RAW really isn't an "image". It's the actual data read directly off the sensor. You need to convert it to a viewable image, either by using the on-board (camera) JPG processor, or on your computer using a RAW converter (Digital Photo Professional, Lightroom/Photoshop's ACR or many other programs)

Again, if I emailed my Mom (or even my Dad who IS a photographer) a RAW file, they would not be able to do anything with it. It needs to be processed/converted to an IMAGE first.




  
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Nov 14, 2008 09:05 |  #26

Emailing a RAW File could also not be possible. That camera is what 10mp so you shoot raw and want to email 10mp file sizes?? Most isp's restrict the limits to 5mp...


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Nov 14, 2008 09:05 |  #27

Why do you want to email the RAW file to someone?

Surely u want to put your own processing on the image as you see fit before emailing the result ? ... that's one of the benefits of RAW, even if its only selecting the picture style after the event !

May I ask what were the decision factors in deciding to shoot RAW ?


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Nov 14, 2008 09:10 |  #28

Okydoki smokie..

Did some of the leg work for you. We can not contiune this converstaion untill you get a grip on what RAW is.. That can't happen until you have done some reading.
Here are a couple of links to get you started!

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Raw_image_forma​t (external link)

http://www.photoxels.c​om/tutorial_raw.html (external link)

http://lifehacker.com …hy-jpeg-vs-raw-196690.php (external link)

http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/raw-vs-jpeg/ (external link)


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Nov 14, 2008 09:14 |  #29

I would ask you to post a link to one of your RAW files so we could show you what we are talking about and how we might process the shot for you to give some assistance... But that just might open a whole new can of worms :(


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Nov 14, 2008 09:15 |  #30

Michael_Lambert wrote in post #6684866 (external link)
Email someone a RAW file would be like giving your client the Negitive slide from the old 35mm days. You need to Process your RAW file.

This is partially true.

It would really be like putting the negative in a locked safe and mailing it to them. It's unlikely that they would have the software on their PC to view the image -- unless they were a digital photographer.


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