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Going to Italy...take the G6 or 10D?

 
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Feb 28, 2005 18:35 |  #1

For a three-week trip to Italy in a couple of months, I can't make up my mind between taking my new G6, with which I'm very happy, or my trusty 10D. Things to consider: I'm 69 and a heart patient, not given to really rigorous exercise. Can't walk all day because of foot problems. In the past, I've taken my 10D plus wide and long tele lenses and the 550EX. It got heavy. The G6 is lighter,of course, as is the 420EX flash I'd take. But it's not much less bulky, since I'd like to take the wide converter lens as well as an affixed attachment from photosolve.com that lets me view without the bothersome interference of sunlight, and without the parallax problems that come with the G6's optical viewer. In short, though lighter, the G6 would need a bag almost the size of the one I use for the 10D. Guess I could use any extra space for assorted non-photo extras.
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Feb 28, 2005 18:52 |  #2

It's a funny thing, making decisions like that. I remenber when all I had was 35mm slr's and I often wished for something small and inconspicious, but then I recall owning a half a dozen point and shoot digital, because the dslr's were too expensive, now that I have the dslr's I also have found myself wishing there was some sort of compromise. I think for serious pictures I would take the dslr and a wide zoom, like the 17-40 and call it good.




  
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Feb 28, 2005 20:40 as a reply to  @ cactusclay's post |  #3

Yes, I have and love my 17-40. I like the idea of taking just one lens, 4 or 5 batteries (does anyone know how easy or difficult it is to use electric converters in Italy? I had trouble in Costa Rica), two 1 gig cards, two 512 MB cards, polarizing filter, lens hood, light Velbon travel tripod, and nothing else. But I'm always thinking in the back of my mind, "I should've brought my 70-200L plus 1.5x multiplier for this sunset or that bird or architectural detail." Gosh, why is this so hard to determine?

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Feb 28, 2005 21:24 |  #4

Gosh Floyd, This is a tough one! My first thought is to take the DSLR with a couple lenses, but your having heart problems throws a twist into the equasion.
Maybe you should load your bag just as you would have it in Italy, and take a hike around the block in your neighborhood to see if you can handle it OK, or if it's too much. You probably should ask your Doctor first though.
About the voltage, I think it's 240 in Italy, but I'm not sure about that. I know converters are heavy and expensive for European items used in the States because I have a friend that lives here now but wanted to use one of Her European toasters over here. One thought on this would be to go to an Italian camera store and buy a charger for the BP511's there. I'm sure this would be much less expensive than buying a converter. :rolleyes:
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Feb 28, 2005 22:51 as a reply to  @ Ballen Photo's post |  #5

The power there is 220-240 and 50hz from memory. The CB-5L charger that came with my 300D is rated betwen 100-240 volts so a cheap adapter should do the trick. Whereabouts are you heading to? I spent about 8 weeks in Italy last year and absolutely loved it, mostly travelling through Tuscany and down the West Coast. I'd recommend taking the 10D with your 17-40 and enjoy the scenery. Most of the landscapes I took in Tuscany etc were wide sweeping views with rolling hills, definitely perfect for a wide-angle lens. I only had my Sony DSCS85 at the time (similar to a Canon G3 I think??) and definitely wished for soemthing wider.

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Feb 28, 2005 23:17 |  #6

I'm with Paul O re the voltages: your charger should be fine, with a simple adaptor.

No-one can answer this for you, I have a couple of questions that might help you decide:
- Do you have such gear that you can get a good range of angles without taking a lot of heavy gear? Perhaps even a single lens like the Tamron 28-75 would be suitable, or a Canon 28-135 IS? Would this be as good as the lens on the G6?
- Two batteries, one or two 1GB cards, maybe a filter, and no tripod would probably work.
- Can you imagine yourself in a situation where you'd be saying to yourself "damn, I wish I had the 10D"? If you can say yes you'd miss the 10D then you should find some compromise between taking the 10D and being laden down with gear.

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Mar 01, 2005 01:13 |  #7

If I were you I'd keep it as small and light as possible and bring the G6 only.
Depending on when and where you are going it might be very hot, so the less weight the better.
Also, like everywhere else in the world, tourists stick out like sore thumbs and easily become a target for chancers. The more inconspicuous the better. If I were you I would not want to set up a tripod etc., change lenses and fuss about. Italy is too beautiful. Enjoy.

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Mar 01, 2005 01:29 as a reply to  @ DeeplyDigital's post |  #8

In need of urgent advice, I thought I should bud into this somewhat relevant thread:

I arrived in Beijing some days ago with an slr, to be around for some months. Realizing I would shoot thousands of pictures here, and finding the prices easonable, I bought a Canon Poweshot Pro 1. Not familiar with digital photography, I am experiencing difficulties: With a fully charged battery pack I get a low battery warning with less than 20 pictures shot!!!!! I undestand the rated 420 pictures is for 20 C and at lower temperatures - below zeroe these days here- one can get the warning much earlier... But could it be that early???? I went to the shop and changed the camera, battery packs, and the charger.. but the same result. Any suggestions???




  
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Mar 01, 2005 01:42 |  #9

Having just read a G6 review, i'd just take the G6 myself.


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Mar 01, 2005 10:01 |  #10

I have both the 10D and the G6....take them both :)




  
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Mar 03, 2005 11:41 as a reply to  @ afoktay's post |  #11

afoktay wrote:
In need of urgent advice, I thought I should bud into this somewhat relevant thread:

I arrived in Beijing some days ago with an slr, to be around for some months. Realizing I would shoot thousands of pictures here, and finding the prices easonable, I bought a Canon Poweshot Pro 1. Not familiar with digital photography, I am experiencing difficulties: With a fully charged battery pack I get a low battery warning with less than 20 pictures shot!!!!! I undestand the rated 420 pictures is for 20 C and at lower temperatures - below zeroe these days here- one can get the warning much earlier... But could it be that early???? I went to the shop and changed the camera, battery packs, and the charger.. but the same result. Any suggestions???

Excessive usage of the LCD viewing screen will drain the battery rapidly. Try to use it as little as necessary. Cold will also decrease battery capacity. I would buy a second battery, charge both and keep the spare in my shirt pocket or other inside pocket where it will stay warm. When you get the low battery signal switch the batteries and put the cold battery in the pocket and let it warm up. Then switch them again as necessary. It may also be that your camera is signalling low battery while there is still plenty of juice left. You might try just using the batter till the camera won't shoot anymore and see how many more shots you can get.
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Mar 03, 2005 12:40 as a reply to  @ chtgrubbs's post |  #12

Well, since no one suggested this, I offer my services as your assistant and I will carry your camera gear and mine for you while we walk around. Should solve your problem easily. :)

Seriously, I was in France & Italy for two weeks in January. I was able to do a bit of sightseeing since I was there for my job. So, I wanted to stay light. I took my 20D, Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 1 extra battery and 4x 1gb cards. I think I took close to 400 photos. The combo worked well for me and was pretty easy to carry around. I took it everywhere I went and had no problems. Good Luck and enjoy.......

Can you guess which part of Italy?

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Mar 03, 2005 13:35 as a reply to  @ Woten's post |  #13

Thanks for your offer, but I already have an assistant...my wife. But she doesn't much cotton to helping me carry camera gear.

I'm now leaning toward taking the 10D, but I haven't decided whether or not to keep the BG-ED3 grip on it. It's not heavy, but it is bulky getting it in and out of the bag. We'll be staying at a friend's vacant apartment in Trieste for a week or so, with train side trips to Venice (I'll look for the fellow in your pic), Udine, and, hopefully, Ljubljana in Slovenia. Then on to Umbria by car for a week or so in a small town (Panicale) near Lake Trasimento. Hope to sandwich in Florence as well.

Good advice on the batteries and flash cards. I have two 1 gig and two 512s, but I may invest in another 1 gig. I have five batteries (two are clones), but I'm also taking along a current converter. We hit Sedona last year, but never got down to your town.

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Mar 03, 2005 13:44 as a reply to  @ Woten's post |  #14

Woten wrote:
Well, since no one suggested this, I offer my services as your assistant and I will carry your camera gear and mine for you while we walk around. Should solve your problem easily. :)

Seriously, I was in France & Italy for two weeks in January. I was able to do a bit of sightseeing since I was there for my job. So, I wanted to stay light. I took my 20D, Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 1 extra battery and 4x 1gb cards. I think I took close to 400 photos. The combo worked well for me and was pretty easy to carry around. I took it everywhere I went and had no problems. Good Luck and enjoy.......

Can you guess which part of Italy?
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Mar 03, 2005 23:53 |  #15

Are you going on holiday in order to take pictures, or just going on holiday? The answer to that question would determine which I would take.


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