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Nov 20, 2008 17:37 |  #1

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might be a silly question, but how does the timing of the PC cord trigger relate to the firing of a 580exn flash set up in the hotshoe? (or triggered via ST-E2 for that matter)
I suspect it just fires away within the shutter-sync opening but couldn't find anything specific doing a search.


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Nov 20, 2008 21:21 |  #2

I don't understand the question.


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Nov 20, 2008 21:36 |  #3

Basically he is asking which is faster, attaching the flash via hot shoe or via a pc-cord.

In terms of trigger the flash.


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Nov 20, 2008 22:17 as a reply to  @ ooo's post |  #4

Then the question arises - in what photographic situation will the timing of the two triggers be critical? I suspect both means will be in the microseconds, perhaps, even in the nanoseconds area. A good question to pose to a manufacturer of camera/flash technology.


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Nov 21, 2008 00:36 |  #5

I think he wants to know if he will get light for the exposure from both units.....and I think he knows the answer already.


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Nov 21, 2008 01:31 |  #6

tim wrote in post #6729160 (external link)
I don't understand the question.

probably sounds more complicated than I need it to be.
What I'm asking is how well does PC cord triggered flash work with hotshoe and/or ST-E2 triggered flash, do they play well together or is there timing issues? I was thinking along the lines of the PC cord trigger being an electronicly different beast than the hotshoe and wondered if, the actual flash timings differ (even if both fire somewhere within the confines of the shutter sync)


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Nov 21, 2008 01:44 |  #7

I can't see it being an issue (perhaps at the very extreme limit on a 1d classic with its 1/500th sync) but I use a wireless trigger attached via a PC sync cord while having either a ST-E2 or speedlite on the hotshoe without issues at 30D sync of 1/250th.

The wireless will certainly induce a longer delay than a sync cord, so it should be well within the shutter opening timeframe.




  
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Nov 21, 2008 02:31 |  #8

I quite often have a 580EX on the hotshoe, with a skyport transmitter through the PC port. They fire simultaneously when I hit the go button. The shutter button. Whatever it's called. My skyports usually manage 1/250th.


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Nov 21, 2008 02:45 |  #9

thanks all, will cobble up a lead & see how it goes. My preference to keep things wireless is currently overridden by budgetry constraints...


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Nov 21, 2008 02:53 |  #10

joeseph wrote in post #6730440 (external link)
thanks all, will cobble up a lead & see how it goes. My preference to keep things wireless is currently overridden by budgetry constraints...


You can borrow my skyports Duncan, they are currantly doing nothing (as per the last 3 weeks and as far into the foreseable future as I can see)




  
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Nov 21, 2008 03:02 |  #11

Mark Vuleta wrote in post #6730454 (external link)
You can borrow my skyports Duncan, they are currantly doing nothing (as per the last 3 weeks and as far into the foreseable future as I can see)

that's very kind thanks Mark, will see how things go, I have yet to get my other flash back from someone I lent it to - not sure when it'll come back... :rolleyes:


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Nov 21, 2008 07:37 |  #12

joeseph wrote in post #6730247 (external link)
probably sounds more complicated than I need it to be.
What I'm asking is how well does PC cord triggered flash work with hotshoe and/or ST-E2 triggered flash, do they play well together or is there timing issues? I was thinking along the lines of the PC cord trigger being an electronicly different beast than the hotshoe and wondered if, the actual flash timings differ (even if both fire somewhere within the confines of the shutter sync)

You should not have any issues mounting an EX flash or the ST-E2 transmitter on the hotshoe and having a strobed connected to the PC port via a sync cable. The main flashes of both will fire at the same time immediately after the shutters open unless 2nd curtain sync is set, in which case, the EX flash in the hotshoe will fire later than the PC connected flash assuming a slower shutter speed is used.


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