RAW image shift in post?

So I import a folder into lightroom, and when I click on a picture, there's a shift in color and contrast that happens within about half a second. It's not drastic, but it's obviously noticeable. Anyone else have this? If so,what is it? Is Lightroom adjusting settings?

The first thing you see is the embedded preview in the RAW file... that preview takes into account the in-camera settings (BW, saturation, sharpness, contrast) and uses Canon's own algorithms to present that image.

It switches after LR renders its own preview image... since LR doesn't read these settings and uses its own algorithms to render an image it is different than how camera preview.

I suggest downloading the beta profiles from Adobe... then under camera calibration tab (or by setting it as a default) you can use these profiles which are meant to 'come closer' to matching the in camera settings such as 'standard', 'landscape', and 'portrait.' In my opinon these profiles are a vast improvement over Canon's previous colors.

Thanks, David. This makes total sense - that LR is trying to match the camera settings. And it's close-ish, bot the same. It happens so fast I never understood what was going on.

No problem.

Just so we're clear, though. It's not the process of LR trying to match the in camera settings... the point is, those are totally ignored. For example, you could shoot BW in camera, and LR will display the image in color. Its not just LR, though... every RAW converter will give its own "interpretation" of how to render the image including differences in contrast, tone, saturation or even shifts in color hue.

In fact LR or ACR's built in rendering of the images was never even "close-ish" for me... they were always very yuck with skin turning sickly green and reds turning orange. That's why I suggested the "beta profiles" since they really do a MUCH better job IMO. They can be found here: http://labs.adobe.com/​wiki/index.php/DNG_Pro​files

so to rehash:
Intial view = embedded .jpg (or how in-camera .jpg would have looked.)
Change after a few seconds = ACR/LR's rendering of the image which ignores any in-camera settings.

Interesting. I always found Lightroom gave this weird orange tone, ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACKS! I never understood where it was coming from.

David,

Thanks for the link to the Beta Profiles. I downloaded the file and am very happy with the results. I can easily apply the new Camera Calibration profile (eg. Camera Standard beta 2) to one picture, but how do I apply to multiple pictures already imported into Lightroom?

Thanks,
~Dom

Obtong wrote in post #6741773
David,

Thanks for the link to the Beta Profiles. I downloaded the file and am very happy with the results. I can easily apply the new Camera Calibration profile (eg. Camera Standard beta 2) to one picture, but how do I apply to multiple pictures already imported into Lightroom?

Thanks,
~Dom

If you find one you like, you can set it as the new default for you camera... so all new imports will apply that profile automatically. Once you do that, it is possible to hit the 'reset' button for any previously imported images and it will apply that (although you'd lose any other adustments also.)

To do it and KEEP previous adjustments:

1. In Library Grid view, first select an image with the profile you want applied to all the other images (This is your 'most' selected image (you can tell because the gray around the image is brighter than any others you select.))
   
2. Then add other images to selection using ctl-key... that first image you selected should still have the 'lightest gray' around it.
   
3. From bottom of right hand panel select 'sync settings'
   
4. In window that appears, first select 'check none' at the bottom; then check the box next to 'calibration.' and hit OK.

briancmo wrote in post #6740327
Thanks, David. This makes total sense - that LR is trying to match the camera settings. And it's close-ish, bot the same. It happens so fast I never understood what was going on.

It's not trying to match the camera settings because it can't. Only DPP can use camera settings. ACR is applying its default settings to the RAW file: blacks: 5, contrast 25, etc.

For existing photos, apply the profile you want to a single picture then save the setting as a preset. You can then select all the other photos you want to adjust and simply click on the preset to apply it to them. See this link for detailed instructions: http://lightroom-blog.com …wing-camera-profiles.html

Obtong wrote in post #6741773
David,

Thanks for the link to the Beta Profiles. I downloaded the file and am very happy with the results. I can easily apply the new Camera Calibration profile (eg. Camera Standard beta 2) to one picture, but how do I apply to multiple pictures already imported into Lightroom?

Thanks,
~Dom

Thanks for the great tips w/Lightroom's profiles, FedkaTheConvict. These were just what I have been looking for!

~Dom

You're welcome. Of course you can also do what I did and delete your catalog and reimport all your photos with the new profile as the default.

I use Camera Neutral for my default since my cameras are also set to Camera Neutral which is recommended by Canon for those of us who do significant amount of post processing.

[QUOTE=FedkaTheConvict​;6747581]Of course you can also do what I did and delete your catalog and reimport all your photos with the new profile as the default. quote]

Sounds like a lot of work! Wouldn't I lose all my edits?
~Dom

Yes. Of course it depends on how much work you've already invested in editing. To me it didn't matter because initial color accuracy was more important that my edits. Also if you're working with DNG files like I mostly do; there are ways to ensure you don't lose your edits. But for the most part deleting your existing catalog will mean you will lose your previous work.

FedkaTheConvict wrote in post #6754508
Also if you're working with DNG files like I mostly do; there are ways to ensure you don't lose your edits. But for the most part deleting your existing catalog will mean you will lose your previous work.

Does doing a Metadata > Update DNG Metadata and Preview save the edits? If not, how does one prevent the edits from being lost when dropped from the catalog?

Thanks

Mike