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Returned my 16-35

 
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Nov 23, 2008 00:37 |  #1

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For what it's worth I just wanted to point out to the group my dissatisfaction with the 16-35 L lens. For the price $1350 from Amazon.com it wasn't worth it at all. I used it just a couple days before I realized I wasn't getting any value from it. I actually took it off my 5D and went back to my 24-105, right in the middle of a dimly lit presentation. I basically bought it to capture wide angles and to ensure that I would be getting enough light since the 16-35 went to 2.8... after reviewing my histogram and then seeing the relatively lower IQ compared to my 24-105 I made up my mind to return it. Also, on the 5D using 16mm is not practical.

Just my two cents.


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Nov 23, 2008 00:56 |  #2

Well, the 24-105L has the 3 stop IS theoretically giving you an extra 2 stops of hand holdability over the 16-35L. (Of course this won't help to stop the action)

Not sure if that had enything to do with it. An f2.8 isn't going to get you too far if it was very dark in there.

Is it actually possible to evaluate IQ by looking at your histogram???

Honestly, I would have used my 35L for such a situation...not the 16-35L.

Using 16mm on a 5D can be practical. It all depends on what you are shooting...

trailrider wrote in post #6741917 (external link)
Hello,
For what it's worth I just wanted to point out to the group my dissatisfaction with the 16-35 L lens. For the price $1350 from Amazon.com it wasn't worth it at all. I used it just a couple days before I realized I wasn't getting any value from it. I actually took it off my 5D and went back to my 24-105, right in the middle of a dimly lit presentation. I basically bought it to capture wide angles and to ensure that I would be getting enough light since the 16-35 went to 2.8... after reviewing my histogram and then seeing the relatively lower IQ compared to my 24-105 I made up my mind to return it. Also, on the 5D using 16mm is not practical.

Just my two cents.




  
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Nov 23, 2008 00:57 |  #3

Was it a bad copy, do you think? I hear all this stuff about bad copies. That is the next lens I am eyeing, and I am on a crop. Are you going to try for a "better copy?"


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Nov 23, 2008 00:58 |  #4

Though I haven't heard too many QC cases with the 16-35L MKII, I did have to send mine in for calibration as it was front focusing at 35mm while it was find at 16mm, something I cannot micro adjust for.

It came back properly calibrated...this lens is not known for having unsolvable issues like the 50L for example...

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Was it a bad copy, do you think? I hear all this stuff about bad copies. That is the next lens I am eyeing, and I am on a crop. Are you going to try for a "better copy?"




  
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Nov 23, 2008 00:58 |  #5

Tumbl3w33ds wrote in post #6742001 (external link)
Was it a bad copy, do you think? I hear all this stuff about bad copies. That is the next lens I am eyeing, and I am on a crop. Are you going to try for a "better copy?"

Save some $$$ and get a 17-40 instead...

One millimeter and one stop won't kill you and when the time comes that you want to move to FF, you won't hardly notice the difference. ;)


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Nov 23, 2008 00:59 |  #6

On a crop, I'd get the 17-55 f2.8 IS, but then again a few years after its release, we are starting to see issues with that one aren't we? :-(




  
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Nov 23, 2008 01:02 |  #7

I would have opted for the 24L f/1.4, but F4 is not going to get your shutter speed higher than with a f/2.8 glass. Can you post the shots with 16-35L if you got any. Also the shots you have with the 24-105L


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Nov 23, 2008 01:03 |  #8

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #6742015 (external link)
Save some $$$ and get a 17-40 instead...

One millimeter and one stop won't kill you and when the time comes that you want to move to FF, you won't hardly notice the difference. ;)

Hey you :)

I am wanting to rid my 10-22 for this and yes, I realize.....

I am not happy with the 10-22, and I am finding I do a lot of stuff 13 and up. I don't care for the distortion. So is 17 realistic? How does this differ from 16+? Ugh I should go take a nap.


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Nov 23, 2008 01:05 |  #9

Probably just the 1 stop of light.
Otherwise they are in the same ballpark as far as IQ is concerned.

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Hey you :)

I am wanting to rid my 10-22 for this and yes, I realize.....

I am not happy with the 10-22, and I am finding I do a lot of stuff 13 and up. I don't care for the distortion. So is 17 realistic? How does this differ from 16+? Ugh I should go take a nap.




  
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Nov 23, 2008 06:27 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #10

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #6742015 (external link)
Save some $$$ and get a 17-40 instead...

One millimeter and one stop won't kill you and when the time comes that you want to move to FF, you won't hardly notice the difference. ;)

nicksan wrote in post #6742021 (external link)
On a crop, I'd get the 17-55 f2.8 IS, but then again a few years after its release, we are starting to see issues with that one aren't we? :-(

The OP is shooting with a 5D...

16mm on a 5D could be very practical, it just depends on what you shoot. TBH, 24mm on a 5D is pretty darn wide as it is. If you don't find yourself shooting much below 24, then get rid of the 16-35L. Pick yourself up a 24L or 35L in its place.


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Nov 23, 2008 09:10 |  #11

nicksan wrote in post #6742021 (external link)
On a crop, I'd get the 17-55 f2.8 IS, but then again a few years after its release, we are starting to see issues with that one aren't we? :-(


what issues are you all starting to see?


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Nov 23, 2008 09:16 |  #12

If he has a 24-105...one can consider a canon or sigma 15mm fixed...my 2cents


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Nov 23, 2008 10:06 |  #13

Yeah just noticed. Got thrown off by the 40D listed in his gear list!
My bad!

argyle wrote in post #6742771 (external link)
The OP is shooting with a 5D...

16mm on a 5D could be very practical, it just depends on what you shoot. TBH, 24mm on a 5D is pretty darn wide as it is. If you don't find yourself shooting much below 24, then get rid of the 16-35L. Pick yourself up a 24L or 35L in its place.




  
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Nov 23, 2008 10:07 |  #14

IS crapping out. AF motor crapping out.
Might be isolated, but I'm seeing several of them in the boards...

cyruz wrote in post #6743195 (external link)
what issues are you all starting to see?




  
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Nov 23, 2008 15:26 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #15

after how long? i can see not using the IS ALL the time, but the AF can be an issue


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