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Nov 24, 2008 01:16 |  #1

It's been a while since i last uploaded any pictures here, so here comes a few from a recent shoot. All taken with Canon 30D Canon 24-70 2.8L, C&C welcome.

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Nov 24, 2008 01:17 |  #2

Pretty cool stuff. Well lit etc, nice angles. I really don't get the gloves at all though. :(


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Nov 24, 2008 04:10 |  #3

I was going to say something about it being cold outside, but then she would not have had a t-shirt on but it was a cold day. :)


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Nov 24, 2008 10:52 |  #4

#4 rocks, the rest leave me a bit cold (gloves and all)


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Nov 24, 2008 15:44 as a reply to  @ hawk911's post |  #5

Yea no 4 is definitely the best. I would have lost the gloves though, makes for an awkward eye-catcher.


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Nov 24, 2008 16:16 |  #6

Thanks for the comments, nice to hear other people's opinions and now that you mentioned the gloves I can agree they take a bit much focus. Something I have to watch out for the next time.


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Nov 24, 2008 16:29 |  #7

# 4 is the eye catcher..nice


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Nov 24, 2008 16:37 |  #8

#4 is best. The gloves are big and distracting. In the first three she looks a little stiff but I still like them. I wanna say you did a fair amount of skin smoothing; yea or nay?




  
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Nov 24, 2008 16:44 |  #9

gooble wrote in post #6751619 (external link)
#4 is best. The gloves are big and distracting. In the first three she looks a little stiff but I still like them. I wanna say you did a fair amount of skin smoothing; yea or nay?

I started with some healingbrush and then a quick run through portraiture, so there is quite a lot skin smoothening yes, do you think it's to much?


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Nov 24, 2008 17:00 |  #10

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I started with some healingbrush and then a quick run through portraiture, so there is quite a lot skin smoothening yes, do you think it's to much?

Yes. Does she have especially bad skin?

My personal opinion on the matter may differ from others but I think less is better. I like to see skin texture and detail to a degree. I don't sharpen it but I don't think it needs to be smoothed into oblivion. What I like to do is heal any obvious blemishes and get rid of any shiny spots if there is any and then add a little soft glow and tailor it to the situation with the opacity slider and if you don't want the glow applied to the whole shot mask it out. The soft glow I use just puts a faint smoothing that lessens harsh creases or wrinkles. On young girls with nice skin it almost isn't needed.

I hate, hate, hate the 'Playboy' smoothed over look. It is so utterly fake looking. The best thing you could probably do is get them to have a good makeup job before the shoot. That would probably handle 90% of any problems. But what do I know I'm no professional.

Edit: just let me add that I don't think you way over did the smoothing. It's really not that bad but I don't like it that much from the start. People do much much worse. #1 is most noticable. The others look good. I may have a different opinon on them if I could see them full size. Can you post one without the skin healing? She is a pretty model BTW.




  
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Nov 24, 2008 17:07 as a reply to  @ gooble's post |  #11

What is Daffy Duck dressed like batman in the upper right corner of the first photo? Is that a reflex or something......


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Nov 25, 2008 01:14 |  #12

gooble wrote in post #6751747 (external link)
Yes. Does she have especially bad skin?

My personal opinion on the matter may differ from others but I think less is better. I like to see skin texture and detail to a degree. I don't sharpen it but I don't think it needs to be smoothed into oblivion. What I like to do is heal any obvious blemishes and get rid of any shiny spots if there is any and then add a little soft glow and tailor it to the situation with the opacity slider and if you don't want the glow applied to the whole shot mask it out. The soft glow I use just puts a faint smoothing that lessens harsh creases or wrinkles. On young girls with nice skin it almost isn't needed.

I hate, hate, hate the 'Playboy' smoothed over look. It is so utterly fake looking. The best thing you could probably do is get them to have a good makeup job before the shoot. That would probably handle 90% of any problems. But what do I know I'm no professional.

Edit: just let me add that I don't think you way over did the smoothing. It's really not that bad but I don't like it that much from the start. People do much much worse. #1 is most noticable. The others look good. I may have a different opinon on them if I could see them full size. Can you post one without the skin healing? She is a pretty model BTW.

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I agree with you on using a make up artist to handle most of the problem but i dont know anyone that can do make up and cant afford to pay someone either. I also think that the picture looks better full size as the downsampling adds a bit of smoothness too.

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Nov 25, 2008 01:15 |  #13

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What is Daffy Duck dressed like batman in the upper right corner of the first photo? Is that a reflex or something......

Someone have painted him there, I thought it was a fun little addition to the picture.


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Nov 25, 2008 03:36 |  #14

Here's what I would do. I'd like yours more if it were pulled back just a little.

Also, looked at some of your pics of Anja and her skin looks great. It didn't look like you did much or anything really.


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Nov 25, 2008 03:56 |  #15

You are right, I went a bit to far with the smoothing in these, the picture of Anja i dont think i did much more then some healingbrush. I just have to learn a new technique so i can get rid of portraiture and do it manually instead.


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