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Nov 25, 2008 11:38 |  #1

I'm bewildered by the vastness of in information on all of these forums, bringing me to ask...

I'm buying the strobist "3 pocket wizard/2 light stand" kit. I already have a Canon XSi and a 580EXII. (with battery grip if that helps)

I would like to shoot the 2 strobes as well as the 580EXII via the hot shoe. (for some direct flash fill and for the speedlite's PC-out since it's not available on the XSi) I'm certain I've seen this question asked some time ago but can't find it for the life of me!

With the hot-shoe in use, is there an alternative method mount/attach the pocket wizard transmitter to my camera? I'm wondering if such a product exists for such a dilemma.


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Nov 25, 2008 11:59 |  #2

http://wizardbrackets.​com/ (external link) ?


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Nov 25, 2008 12:10 |  #3

I believe that this will work. The 580EXII would only be manual though, ETTL won't work using the adapter.

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Nov 25, 2008 12:42 |  #4

I use a 580EX on the camera and two Sunpak 383's off camera with my PW. I simply tape the PW to the side of the 580EX and run the sync cord from the PW to the camera.


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Nov 25, 2008 12:47 |  #5

DDCSD - i'm not worried about getting the transmitter wired up to receive the camera's instructions. The 580EXII has a PC-out so I'm taken care of in that respect. I'd like to have the 580EXII *and* the pocket wizard transmitter *attached* to the camera at the same time. The problem is that only one device can use the hot shoe leaving the other one... hanging.. I looked at the wizardbracket, Disrupter911. It looks like a good option. It would be awkward to attach to the bottom of the camera, but it would be secure. It's a good investment if it's used at the very least for light stands. Velcro might be my only other option unless there is in fact a product still out in the wild.


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Nov 25, 2008 12:49 |  #6

jcolman wrote in post #6757350 (external link)
I use a 580EX on the camera and two Sunpak 383's off camera with my PW. I simply tape the PW to the side of the 580EX and run the sync cord from the PW to the camera.

Awesome, we're on the same page. I'm looking at vivitar, however. Yeah, I thought about tape. It just seems a little tedious, and messy. Your 1Dii has a PC-out, my XSi does not. There shouldn't be a problem going PC-out of my 580EXii right?


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Nov 25, 2008 13:11 as a reply to  @ Pearlallica's post |  #7

This item, although not cheap, will do exactly what you want. Your flash can go on the hot shoe of your camera and if you have a PC connector on the camera then it can connect to the Pocket Wizard on this bracket:

http://cgi.ebay.com …A12%7C39%3A1%7C​240%3A1318 (external link)

If your camera does not have a PC connector then you can use the recommended FlashZebra item on your hot shoe to feed sync to the Pocket Wizard on the bracket.

http://flashzebra.com/​hotshoes-shoes/0064.shtml (external link)


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Nov 25, 2008 13:45 |  #8

bingo!

I found a single mount (external link) whereas the link you posted was for 2. At $50 I'll probably invest in this. It's nice to see companies putting out custom solutions for issues as seemingly minor as this. Thanks for the link, TMR Design!

it's funny how they've circled out putting the PW on top of the camera via the hot shoe mount. That's such a standard method yet their shooting it down in favor of their method.


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Nov 25, 2008 14:02 |  #9

Pearlallica wrote in post #6757714 (external link)
bingo!

I found a single mount (external link) whereas the link you posted was for 2. At $50 I'll probably invest in this. It's nice to see companies putting out custom solutions for issues as seemingly minor as this. Thanks for the link, TMR Design!

it's funny how they've circled out putting the PW on top of the camera via the hot shoe mount. That's such a standard method yet their shooting it down in favor of their method.

My pleasure. I just saw the image and didn't see it was for 2 of them but it's well made and I've dealt with that ebay seller before. It's a good solution.

As loved as Pocket Wizards are, many photographers look for ways to get the darn thing off the hot shoe and out of the way.


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Nov 25, 2008 14:36 |  #10

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Awesome, we're on the same page. I'm looking at vivitar, however. Yeah, I thought about tape. It just seems a little tedious, and messy. Your 1Dii has a PC-out, my XSi does not. There shouldn't be a problem going PC-out of my 580EXii right?

I use to use this as my mount but it was too cumbersome in that I had a hard time getting my eye up to the eyepiece, that's why I went with the simple solution of ditching the frame and simply taping the PW to the side of my 580EX

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Nov 25, 2008 15:48 |  #11

Robert: I accidentally came across one of your posts from 2006 regarding the "bracket fitting" screw-in on the 580EX. The thread alieviated my curiousity because at first glance I thought it was a female PC port. Dang! The L frame thing explains the threading. I also took the time to read your signature - sorry about calling you TMR. I thought I'd mention that since we'll both be on the threads for some time to come.

jcolman: thanks for sharing the images. It's a clever setup, but can see its limitations. I have a similar bracket but I don't have the extra hole for the PW. Plus I use my bracket minimally. I like some of the mounts already brought to my attention.


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Pearlallica wrote in post #6758329 (external link)
Robert: I accidentally came across one of your posts from 2006 regarding the "bracket fitting" screw-in on the 580EX. The thread alieviated my curiousity because at first glance I thought it was a female PC port. Dang! The L frame thing explains the threading. I also took the time to read your signature - sorry about calling you TMR. I thought I'd mention that since we'll both be on the threads for some time to come.

jcolman: thanks for sharing the images. It's a clever setup, but can see its limitations. I have a similar bracket but I don't have the extra hole for the PW. Plus I use my bracket minimally. I like some of the mounts already brought to my attention.

No problem man. It's all good.


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Pearlallica wrote in post #6757376 (external link)
DDCSD - i'm not worried about getting the transmitter wired up to receive the camera's instructions. The 580EXII has a PC-out so I'm taken care of in that respect. I'd like to have the 580EXII *and* the pocket wizard transmitter *attached* to the camera at the same time. The problem is that only one device can use the hot shoe leaving the other one... hanging.. I looked at the wizardbracket, Disrupter911. It looks like a good option. It would be awkward to attach to the bottom of the camera, but it would be secure. It's a good investment if it's used at the very least for light stands. Velcro might be my only other option unless there is in fact a product still out in the wild.

Ah, I see. I didn't realize the 580 EXII's PC port was an "outtie". :lol:


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Nov 25, 2008 19:33 |  #14

The PC jack on the 580EX II is not active to fire the PW transmitter as it comes from the factory, unless the "580EX II Re-Wire Mod" is done first.

The PW can also be attached to the flash head using a "PW Caddy", Velcro, or gaffers tape, or to the camera bottom using a "Double Threaded Stud with Neoprene Washer", or even a "Tripod Quick Release Mounting Bracket (Double Studded)"


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