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Dec 01, 2008 19:14 |  #1

I am looking for new products and new labs to use for 2009. Anybody have some suggestions on services with a lot of product offerings? Thanks!


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Dec 01, 2008 19:50 |  #2

Millers is really good


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Dec 01, 2008 20:06 as a reply to  @ joshbehan's post |  #3

Millers looks great! Good find!


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Dec 02, 2008 12:55 |  #4

Who are using now and why do want to switch? I currently use WHCC and have been very pleased. Have been considering trying Millers as well. I wish I knew the difference between Millers and Mpix if there is a difference in prints?

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Dec 02, 2008 18:12 as a reply to  @ g-money's post |  #5

I use a local lab right now for my prints, they do a great job, not quite as inexpensive as some online places. For albums I use a variety of vendors. I use showit web for slideshows. I am always looking for new things and products to offer. I am looking for unique wedding ideas besides just prints and albums. Some of the ideas I am looking for are like calendars, laser etched crystal items, and those prints with the large matting that people can sign as guestbooks. I am looking for those types of items and good vendors who provide them.


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Dec 03, 2008 11:51 |  #6

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Dec 03, 2008 21:18 |  #7

Another vote for Miller's. They are probably one of the best companies I have ever worked with in my entire life. And that's no joke. They're just on top of their game and I've been using them since 1992. Back then, there was a wait list to get in and I think their quality was better then, but it's still amazingly good and they offer ALL kinds of products.

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Dec 04, 2008 07:56 |  #8

g-money wrote in post #6798618 (external link)
Who are using now and why do want to switch? I currently use WHCC and have been very pleased. Have been considering trying Millers as well. I wish I knew the difference between Millers and Mpix if there is a difference in prints?

Greg

Both are great. Unless I'm in a total pinch and have to use someone local for same-day service, I use Millers/MPIX exclusively, yet MPIX-or-Millers for different reasons (price, usually).

Millers = Pro Lab, Pro Lab Service.
MPIX = Pro Lab, Prosumer Service.

Millers = Pricing include shipping charges (next day), with a $10 order minimum.
MPIX = $4.95 flat rate shipping, Camera Store prints pricing
(Once you're a Millers customer, you can get their price list, load it into Excel, do the same with the MPIX pricing, and figure this out on a per-order basis.)

Millers = Nearly a dozen ways to order prints (LabPrints, ROES, Online Cart, Remote Studio, and on and on...)
MPIX = 2 ways to order prints (ROES and Online Cart)

Millers = slightly extended product selection from MPIX, although they recently re-released MPIX with a new catalog that includes some new things.

Millers = Your studio name inkjetted (e.g. ©YourPhotoCo) on the back of prints, and ability to do the logo foil stamping in the corner, etc.
MPIX = You get the filename inkjetted. No other studio type service here.

Millers = You can call their customer service. Or email them.
MPIX = You can email them. (Although their response time is very good)

Millers = If you upload something that doesn't look right, they'll call you before printing it.
MPIX = If you upload something that doesn't look right, you'll see how it turned out when it arrives in the mail.

Like I said above, the product offering is probably 80% overlap. There are some minor differences in print sizes offered (MPIX largest photo print is 24x36, yet Millers can do 30x40)...


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Dec 04, 2008 08:49 |  #9

Wow, I'm going to switch to Millers now! Thanks


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Dec 05, 2008 06:49 |  #10

g-money wrote in post #6798618 (external link)
Who are using now and why do want to switch? I currently use WHCC and have been very pleased. Have been considering trying Millers as well. I wish I knew the difference between Millers and Mpix if there is a difference in prints?

Greg

The difference is that at Miller's I order Monday morning and usually by Tuesday at the latest Wednesday I have the images, book Album (anything), same at Mpix, but to get them that fast, I pay 10.00 extra for shipping, and that is about the only difference. I have not had to call customer service with mpix, but at Miller's, expert help is just and 800 number call away.


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Dec 05, 2008 07:03 |  #11

SamClarkPhotography wrote in post #6811184 (external link)
Wow, I'm going to switch to Millers now! Thanks

Sam,
About 10 years ago, I was just days from getting out of the business because I as sick of the quality I was getting locally..... traveling back and forth, redo's were out the roof. I burned many bridges arguing with lab techs about images.

By accident, while on a trip to San Antonio I decided to look for a lab to possibly mail film, negs to... the tech there said they could do the work I need, but he sent his own personal images to Miller's. At that time, they only accepted new customers in December and January, which was okay cuz it was December. I gave them a call, filled out some forms, and they saved my business life. I have strayed a few times looking for better, but I always come back. I love them, they are like me, never settling, always working to improve and offer better. I have grown with them so give them a try.

Now they have Mpix and I have cut my cost further.


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Dec 05, 2008 14:15 |  #12

amccomis wrote in post #6810938 (external link)
Both are great. Unless I'm in a total pinch and have to use someone local for same-day service, I use Millers/MPIX exclusively, yet MPIX-or-Millers for different reasons (price, usually).

Millers = Pro Lab, Pro Lab Service.
MPIX = Pro Lab, Prosumer Service.

Millers = Pricing include shipping charges (next day), with a $10 order minimum.
MPIX = $4.95 flat rate shipping, Camera Store prints pricing
(Once you're a Millers customer, you can get their price list, load it into Excel, do the same with the MPIX pricing, and figure this out on a per-order basis.)

Millers = Nearly a dozen ways to order prints (LabPrints, ROES, Online Cart, Remote Studio, and on and on...)
MPIX = 2 ways to order prints (ROES and Online Cart)

Millers = slightly extended product selection from MPIX, although they recently re-released MPIX with a new catalog that includes some new things.

Millers = Your studio name inkjetted (e.g. ©YourPhotoCo) on the back of prints, and ability to do the logo foil stamping in the corner, etc.
MPIX = You get the filename inkjetted. No other studio type service here.

Millers = You can call their customer service. Or email them.
MPIX = You can email them. (Although their response time is very good)

Millers = If you upload something that doesn't look right, they'll call you before printing it.
MPIX = If you upload something that doesn't look right, you'll see how it turned out when it arrives in the mail.

Like I said above, the product offering is probably 80% overlap. There are some minor differences in print sizes offered (MPIX largest photo print is 24x36, yet Millers can do 30x40)...

cchooks wrote in post #6817677 (external link)
The difference is that at Miller's I order Monday morning and usually by Tuesday at the latest Wednesday I have the images, book Album (anything), same at Mpix, but to get them that fast, I pay 10.00 extra for shipping, and that is about the only difference. I have not had to call customer service with mpix, but at Miller's, expert help is just and 800 number call away.

Thanks amccomis & cchooks for the explanation. That helps clear that up. I may have to give Millers a shot and compare the same order to WHCC to see the results.

@entrefoto, I am sure Miller's is great I would also go ahead and open a WHCC account as well, it's free and you get 3 or 4 free 8x10's out of it to compare or hang on your wall. See which one looks best to you. No I don't work for WHCC LOL just been real satisifed for a couple years now. They also offer lots of products, albums, cards etc.

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Dec 06, 2008 00:09 |  #13

Signed up for Millers today! Can't wait to use them and see their products! I also received an e-mail for free prints (4 8x10s) showing how their color correction looks. That's awesome!


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Jan 04, 2009 21:38 as a reply to  @ SamClarkPhotography's post |  #14

Ok, I have a question about online print labs. I have been using MPIX as my print lab as of late.
One thing I haven't figured out, is my photos look REALLY flat and dull, and tend to lose contrast and color when I upload my pictures to their site. Is this normal? How does everyone else go about this?
I even try adding more contrast and color to the picture before uploading to compensate, but then it's not the picture I really liked and perfected, and it becomes a guessing game on what it will look like once uploaded to MPIX.
Anyone else experience this?

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Jan 04, 2009 21:44 |  #15

Hi Dustin - are you doing color correction, or are they doing it? Also, are you uploading sRGB files or aRGB? Also, you may want to check Rene's fine write-up on related topics and color management:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=296149


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