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This is not Shutter Issue, so what is it?

 
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Dec 01, 2008 20:13 |  #1

I just picked up a used 10D, with full knowledge that there was a chance it would not be top of the line. Its price still, made me give it a try.

Since it had no battery and Lens, I went to my local Shop, and they let me use a BP511 and a thrifty fifty (Which they had for $120 plus tax!! and they laughed at me when I said I could get it cheaper).

Anyhow, I put the camera on Av, 5200k, 1.8, and shot without flash from about one foot away. The burst worked perfectly. Images were stored in an old 128mb card that had already been in the camera.

Below I post the results. There is some sort of banding, that I had never seen before. It does not look like shutter or mirror assembly issues. Could it be sensor? The sensor was in top physical shape, not a single speck of dust on it. All other functions of the camera work incredibly well.

Key thing about this warm color (yellowish) band horizontally across the image, is that in reviewing the burst, the band would be at the bottom first, then slowly climbs up as the frames go on, fading over the top, and then starting from the bottom again. Speed? Constant, 800ISO at 1/2000 or 1/4000 (All frames seemed the same speed).

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Dec 01, 2008 20:14 |  #2

here's the next (in series from a burst mode)

Help? Am I bound to throw this thing away?


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Dec 01, 2008 20:15 |  #3

Fluorescent lighting? Looks like it.

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Dec 01, 2008 20:16 |  #4

ACtually the order is backwards, look from this last photo and upwards.
The first frame came out great, the rest, kinda crapped up.

I wish I had a 50mm to test more, and a battery. I am gearless. And penniles.


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Dec 01, 2008 20:19 |  #5

Like js says, fluorescent lighting.




  
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Dec 01, 2008 20:23 |  #6

Agreed, been there, done that. Fluorescent lighting's refresh rate and the fact that the color tint is not consistent during the entire duration of the output causes the light to appear yellow to blue-green in a gradient pattern.


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Dec 01, 2008 20:25 |  #7

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Dec 01, 2008 20:26 |  #8

Mario, take those test shots at a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125 and see how they look...

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Dec 01, 2008 21:16 |  #9

Mario, take those test shots at a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125 and see how they look...

....or even try 1/30 sec to make sure you get well below the FL cycle time.

Actually...it's a Canon camera protesting you taking a pix of a Noink ad slick...

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Dec 01, 2008 22:21 |  #10

number six wrote in post #6794364 (external link)
Fluorescent lighting? Looks like it.

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Only ones i know of with that patter (fluorescent ones at least) are the warm fluorescent bulbs, as the regular ones tend to alternate between mild magenta and deeper green.

I do agree with everyone on this though, definitely lighting related, simply learn to shoot at 1/60 (or 1/50 depending on your country) like the rest of us.


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Dec 01, 2008 22:29 |  #11

So the general consensus is that if I were to photograph with natural light, it would probably work ok? Or did I misunderstand completely.

I wish I could keep testing, but I have no batt or lens.

I paid $125 for the 10D and it came with a 420ex, which works perfectly.

My main concern is that it was not working properly.


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Dec 01, 2008 22:51 |  #12

The camera is working fine. As everyone stated it is simply a case of shooting under fluorescenet lighting

Here's some other threads discussing the same exact thing

https://photography-on-the.net …897&highlight=f​lourescent
https://photography-on-the.net …051&highlight=f​lourescent
https://photography-on-the.net …967&highlight=F​luorescent


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Dec 02, 2008 01:18 |  #13

You got a steal at that price !! Good going !

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Dec 02, 2008 03:06 |  #14

Holy mo a 10D with a 420ex at $125 is a incredible price. I had one for a few years and it is a great camera. The color is superb. I sold mine a year ago for $500. That was with a grip, 3 batteries, kit lens and all the normal stuff that comes with it. Not with a external flash though.


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Dec 02, 2008 12:47 |  #15

Goshawk wrote in post #6796386 (external link)
Holy mo a 10D with a 420ex at $125 is a incredible price. I had one for a few years and it is a great camera. The color is superb. I sold mine a year ago for $500. That was with a grip, 3 batteries, kit lens and all the normal stuff that comes with it. Not with a external flash though.

I know!.. It was also completely serendipitous as well. So when I got to the photo store, I kept dreading that something in fact would be wrong with it. As soon as they lent me a batt for it, I did the clean sensor function, and looked inside. It was spotless. Not a speck of dust, nothing (my biggest fear was that maybe someone had tried cleaning the sensor with some steel wool or such). So when they slapped the 50mm on it, and it clicked, I was beaming. The flash is not the greatest tool ever, extremely simple to use, but it does its job and moves around just like it should. The quick burst -not as I had once on a 1Dmk3- was pleasant enough, and then as I saw the on screen review, I thought maybe that banding was the reason why such a camera may have ended up in a thrift/junk store (well, for a thrift store, this one was pretty junky). Now I can't wait to get some sort of power for it and any glass, to see how it performs with natural light.

Less than a year ago, I had 4 L lenses, dual 1D cameras with a 30D just in case, and life took it all away. I thought I would never recover.

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