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Dec 01, 2008 22:58 |  #1

Hi.
I'm new to this so be gentle..

Just got a Canon EOS-1DS Mk 1 from dad :D an upgrade from my 300D... So my issue is most of my lens are EF-S.. So my journey starts again :)

I'm a social/hobby photographer, my main subjects are(well blurry usually :cry:) scenery, landscapes, old farm buildings (which I want to get onto when I can find some) not a big on portraits, as trees and buildings dont argue with you when you ask them to stand in a certain way, or look at something to get the right shot. :o I also have a soft spot for insects and wildlife. Spiders fascinate me.

My 17-70 Sigma was a good lens which I liked a lot as a walk around/general worker, but wont work Full Frame. I've put my name down on a Canon 24-70mm, which I'll pickup if its at the old price. If not, I'll probably go the Sigma at $1600+ cheaper, which is 2 more lens'.. So need something wider than that.

I'm looking for wide angle, primes or not, doesn't bother me. Most of the searching I've done here comes up with EF-S lens.. I would like 20mm or wider, but unsure what is out there thats good for full frame..

I see Fisheyes, but unsure if thats for me. The effect you get is great, but they are sort of a 1 use lens, or am I just being too much of a noob here???

Budget Im not sure on, but would be happy with Sigma price ranges ;) over Canon :(. I've got 2 Sigma long zooms, which I have no issues with what so ever.

So, whats good and whats not within this range for Full Frame camera? I dont have any preference on brands, but would rather buy once and buy right. Lens' in Aussie arent cheap, and just got worse by a lot with our Dollar being worth cornflakes.

Anyone know anywhere in Melb you can 'hire' lens' to try before you buy, I hear a lot about it in USA, not sure if it happens here.

Sorry if this has been asked a billionty times. If theres a similar thread, pls point me to it.

Sorry to ramble, trying to give as much info as possible up front to get the right answer.

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Dec 01, 2008 23:04 |  #2

Your cheapest options are the Canon 17-40L or the Sigma 12-24 DG.

If you want to go even cheaper, you can get a crop ultrawide like the sigma 10-20 or Tokina 12-24 and use that. You'll have vignetting at the lower focal lengths but they should be usable from around the 16-18mm and higher.

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Dec 01, 2008 23:11 |  #3

picturecrazy wrote in post #6795549 (external link)
That's quite a camera to inherit. lucky guy

I should say "got off dad" (Im 42), I bought off dad at a very good price LOL! We arent the Gates or Murdoch family ;)

Thanks for the tips. Rather have a lens thats 'useable' right across the range, instead of useable for part of it like the 10-20 or 17-70 for that matter...

Reason I have no issue with Sigma, I can get through work through CR' the distributer at good price... We buy a lot of stuff from them.

Will see what others say :)

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Dec 01, 2008 23:13 |  #4

Bruce_Bird wrote in post #6795521 (external link)
Hi.
I'm new to this so be gentle..

Just got a Canon EOS-1DS Mk 1 from dad :D an upgrade from my 300D... So my issue is most of my lens are EF-S.. So my journey starts again :)

I'm a social/hobby photographer, my main subjects are(well blurry usually :cry:) scenery, landscapes, old farm buildings (which I want to get onto when I can find some) not a big on portraits, as trees and buildings dont argue with you when you ask them to stand in a certain way, or look at something to get the right shot. :o I also have a soft spot for insects and wildlife. Spiders fascinate me.

My 17-70 Sigma was a good lens which I liked a lot as a walk around/general worker, but wont work Full Frame. I've put my name down on a Canon 24-70mm, which I'll pickup if its at the old price. If not, I'll probably go the Sigma at $1600+ cheaper, which is 2 more lens'.. So need something wider than that.

I'm looking for wide angle, primes or not, doesn't bother me. Most of the searching I've done here comes up with EF-S lens.. I would like 20mm or wider, but unsure what is out there thats good for full frame..

I see Fisheyes, but unsure if thats for me. The effect you get is great, but they are sort of a 1 use lens, or am I just being too much of a noob here???

Budget Im not sure on, but would be happy with Sigma price ranges ;) over Canon :(. I've got 2 Sigma long zooms, which I have no issues with what so ever.

So, whats good and whats not within this range for Full Frame camera? I dont have any preference on brands, but would rather buy once and buy right. Lens' in Aussie arent cheap, and just got worse by a lot with our Dollar being worth cornflakes.

Anyone know anywhere in Melb you can 'hire' lens' to try before you buy, I hear a lot about it in USA, not sure if it happens here.

Sorry if this has been asked a billionty times. If theres a similar thread, pls point me to it.

Sorry to ramble, trying to give as much info as possible up front to get the right answer.

Thanks
Bruce.
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be prepared to be bombarded with suggestions for UWA lenses and make sure you know the difference (which i think you do).

i say get the 24-70L or the 24-105L.

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Dec 01, 2008 23:56 |  #5

If you have the cash, the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM was one of the best lenses I have EVER used.


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Dec 02, 2008 00:01 |  #6

sigma 15-30, never used it...but it is an option.


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Dec 02, 2008 00:15 |  #7

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sigma 15-30, never used it...but it is an option.

i've used it and it's mediocre at best.

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Dec 02, 2008 00:20 |  #8

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If you have the cash, the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM was one of the best lenses I have EVER used.

Love one, but at $2000+, its outta the range :(


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Dec 02, 2008 00:22 |  #9

Bruce_Bird wrote in post #6795899 (external link)
Love one, but at $2000+, its outta the range :(

Woah....it's $2,000?!?!? THANK GOD my company bought one. lol


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Dec 02, 2008 00:32 |  #10

24-105L would probably be the best all rounder


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Dec 02, 2008 00:46 |  #11

CamaroSS wrote in post #6795906 (external link)
Woah....it's $2,000?!?!? THANK GOD my company bought one. lol

Uhm, that is $2000 Australian dollars (see where he is from), and not US dollars.


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Dec 02, 2008 01:26 |  #12

The Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 DG EX HSM is a full frame lens. And in fact is WIDER than the Canon EF-S 10-22mm which is 16-35mm equivalent. The EF-S 10-22mm is meant to fill the exact space of the 16-35L for crop bodies (in focal length at least, its obviously not a f/2.8). The Sigma 12-24mm is the widest UWA zoom on the market for full frame. 12mm is an otherworldly experience and definitely worth the cost of entry (about $600 USD).

Pair that with your EF 24-70mm f/2.8L you have on order and you're good from 12mm - 70mm.

All you'll need now is a 70-200mm and you're set. Seeing as you like to shoot wildlife you won't be needing it for indoors much, hence go with the 70-200mm f/4L IS.

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Dec 02, 2008 06:21 |  #13

ed rader wrote in post #6795590 (external link)
be prepared to be bombarded with suggestions for UWA lenses and make sure you know the difference (which i think you do).

i say get the 24-70L or the 24-105L.

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Um.....Ed?

OP statement:

I would like 20mm or wider

So I recommend Canon 17-40L.


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Dec 02, 2008 06:26 |  #14

I have a 5D and the 17-40 and can't imagine needing anything wider. It's a nice fit, for the price for sure. If you had the extra $$, I'd suggest the 16-35 2.8 as there are times when I wish I had the extra speed. But the 17-40 will make you smile, often. :-)


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Dec 02, 2008 06:51 |  #15

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #6796027 (external link)
Uhm, that is $2000 Australian dollars (see where he is from), and not US dollars.

Correct.. Aussie $ is worth less than Cheerios at the moment.

Just to show how good things are in the exchange rate world, the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L has gone from $1600 to $2300 (at least that much, maybe more) in 1 hit.

:cry: :cry: :cry: Making it pretty much outta the range for most casual/hobby photographers.


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