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Dec 03, 2008 08:27 |  #1

Got this in an email from an instructor I had a few modules ago. Thought I'd share his email.

I just spent 3 hours at a CPS (Canon Professional Services) open house, where they were showing the new Canon 5D Mark II. Canon also had a set up with a Canon technician doing free, yes F-R-E-E, sensor cleaning. So, after I put my camera in line, waiting for my turn, I was able to watch first hand how a real live Canon technician actually does sensor cleaning. Mind you, this was not a brief encounter. I stood there and watched him clean no less than 30 cameras over the course of 2+ hours. When I say “watched”, I mean standing two feet in front of him, probing him with questions all the while.

Camera manufacturers will tell you that if you’re going to clean your own sensor, “Never touch your sensor with anything except air from a hand squeezed blower, like the Giottos Rocket Air Blower. Never used canned air” Well, since when do photographers listen to anyone, right? So, what do we do? We go out and buy sensor cleaning kits, with special pads, special solutions, special swabs, etc. Let me tell you how the Canon technician does it. Keep in mind, my quotes are paraphrased.

As soon as he grabbed his can (yes, CAN) of Office Depot brand canned (yes, CANNED) air, I asked, “I thought we weren’t supposed to use canned air on the sensor?” He said, “Well, you have to know how to use it. It can emit damaging components if you don’t do it just right.” I thought, hmmm, looks like he is pulling the trigger, yeah, I can do that. Looks like he’s keeping the can upright... I can do that too. He’s using short little blasts... I can do that as well. Then he grabbed his Lenspen http://www.lenspen.com​/ (external link) and proceeded to go at that sensor like he was waxing a new Porsche. I watched intently. Hmmm, he’s only rubbing counter-clockwise. I wonder if that makes difference, I thought. I decided that it didn’t. He was also cleaning camera bodies and lenses. He used that Lenspen on any glass surface, with one exception — the mirror. On that he used a Kimberly-Clark Professional Kimwipe (with Lintguard). Yeah, I was taking notes.

The other extremely important thing that he used, which unfortunately in not as inexpensive as the other items, is a lighted loupe that he place right on the lens mount every few seconds to check his progress. This allowed him to see, big and bright, the results of his labors.

The one thing he never used on any of the sensors I watched him clean, was any kind of liquid. I asked him if he ever used a cleaning solution, and he said very very rarely, only if something is really stuck hard on there. In which case he uses a touch of 99% isopropyl alcohol, which is the same solution he was using on the exterior surface of the camera body and lens mount. When he cleaned the mirror, he did a quick exhale to give it a fast fog, and then rubbed it with the Kimwipe. That’s right, he used his breath. I thought, hmmm, I can do that too! Unless he uses a special Canon breath mint. Those are $30 each.

Now, in his defense, I have to say that he is a professional. He does this every day. He knows what he’s doing. And, he was kind enough to share his knowledge. But, in all honesty, it didn’t look that hard. I did probe him with specifics, like “does it matter what brand of canned air you use?” He said that they tried lots of brands and just found that the Office Depot stuff was the best. They said they had some problems with other brands. He also said that it’s hard to find 99% isopropyl alcohol, and that anything less than that can streak. So, he was quite particular.

There are many philosophies and methods to sensor cleaning. Understandably, many photographers don’t want to take the risk and just send the camera to the manufacturer. However, if you’re confident, and careful, you can do it yourself.

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Dec 03, 2008 08:32 |  #2

Did he use a lenspen for lenses on the sensor or the lens pen sensor klear??

Thanks for the share.


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Dec 03, 2008 08:36 |  #3

office depot canned air is soon going to have a rise in demand.


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Dec 03, 2008 09:20 as a reply to  @ e r y k's post |  #4

Used the Lenspen Sensor thing ever since it came out. I rarely now have to chase the dust bunnies off my 5D with liquid.


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Dec 03, 2008 10:00 |  #5

CTM wrote in post #6804250 (external link)
Did he use a lenspen for lenses on the sensor or the lens pen sensor klear??

Thanks for the share.

i wrote him back to find out. Hopefully he knows cause you have me wondering now.

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Dec 03, 2008 11:04 |  #6

Here was his response to your question, CTM.

Wilson,

Excellent question. He used two different Lenspens the both sensors and the lenses. When I asked him what the difference was between the two pens, he said it was just their size.

I didn’t ask him if they had different names, both had caps that he immediately put back onto the Lenspen after each and every quick use. In other words, he never put the pen down unless he first put the cap back on. He also said that the Lenspen had a carbon based cleaner in it. That information and my visual recollection says he was probably using the SensorKlear and the Lenspen MiniPro II
http://www.lenspen.com​/402/152/ (external link)

But, I think he was only using the small one (SensorKlear) on the sensors, the other large one was used on the lenses.

Hope that clears it up.

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Dec 03, 2008 11:12 |  #7

Wow thanks good share!


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Dec 03, 2008 11:41 |  #8

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting. My XTi really needs a cleaning, have been holding off due to the cost of all the VisibleDust stuff.

As for a sensor loupe, have to give that some thought. Just got my 5D Mk II yesterday, sensor is spotless.


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Dec 03, 2008 11:55 |  #9

Great info thanks for sharing. I have been doing this all along. I use CRC brand of canned air. Never encountered a problem.


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Dec 03, 2008 14:24 |  #10

Thanks for the post. Good info.


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Dec 03, 2008 19:42 |  #11

I just got my Giottos Rocket Air Blower and I love it it paid for it's self as soon as I got it I had some annoying sensor dust , It did not affect my images but I knew it was there , a couple quick blasts and nearly all are gone , one more clean and I should be all smiles .

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Dec 04, 2008 00:11 |  #12

I was always shocked as to how folks freak out over the sensor and how to clean it. I am glad you posted this information to put out some misunderstandings when it comes to cleaning a camera


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Dec 04, 2008 00:32 |  #13

99 Percent isopropyl alcohol can be purchased at many drugstores. I bought a 500 mL bottle a year ago - it should last me a few years or so.

I've been using the stuff for years to clean the heads on tape recorders (recommended), and it works fine for sensors too. If you look at the MSDS sheets for the stuff everyone recommends, you will note that isoprop is a component (plus ethyl and methyl).

http://www.photosol.co​m/documents/MSDS%20-%20E2.pdf (external link)

And damn it, I've been using the wrong brand of canned air for two years.


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Dec 04, 2008 05:46 |  #14

Glenn NK wrote in post #6809737 (external link)
99 Percent isopropyl alcohol can be purchased at many drugstores. I bought a 500 mL bottle a year ago - it should last me a few years or so.

I've been using the stuff for years to clean the heads on tape recorders (recommended), and it works fine for sensors too. If you look at the MSDS sheets for the stuff everyone recommends, you will note that isoprop is a component (plus ethyl and methyl).

http://www.photosol.co​m/documents/MSDS%20-%20E2.pdf (external link)

And damn it, I've been using the wrong brand of canned air for two years.

For sure an interesting experience and report.

But as for keeping Iso Prop 99% for years. It has always been my understanding that such high % alcohol(s) are hygroscopic i.e they absorb moisture from the air so over time even a small bottle of it will degrade as regards its purity ~ as for sealed bottles well even they are not gas tight.


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Dec 04, 2008 09:37 |  #15

good stuff. great read. kind of makes me wonder now as to why i got a copperhill cleaning kit for my 40D...


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