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Nov 07, 2009 23:03 |  #3091

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Thanks for the feedback on the shots Manish! What type of distortion in the first shot are you seeing? Can you describe it with a bit more detail and perhaps I can fix it once I understand what you meant!

And that show you went to sounds like fun! ;) Any pics from that to share here?

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Jeff, in the first shot, see how the studio owner (?) is a bit distorted? Could be just me, but, he seems a bit 'stretched' if that makes sense?

As for the shots from the show...probably don't even have time to get to them, till this coming week. I'm shooting two models tomorrow...so, maybe I'll put up a sneak peak, when I have a chance. Also went to an airshow this morning/afternoon so, will have some pics from that, too.

I gotta get off of this 7 day schedule. :lol:


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Nov 07, 2009 23:08 |  #3092

Really good job, GoFM. My comments:

- last one looks too blue
- second to last one is a bit too warm

The WB/colour is different when you posted them individually vs. when you posted the composite. Did you do more editing or maybe the composite wasn't saved with an embedded profile?

Re: the distortion. This is caused by you standing too high. You could've minimized that bowing out of the lines by putting your camera halfway between the floor and ceiling in height. Now that might not have given you the perspective you wanted for shots like #1 but the closer you can get to the middle of that distance, the less wide-angle induced distortion you'll have.

Either that or you get a tilt/shift lens. Correcting the tilt distortion is their primary function when used for indoor real-estate/architectural shots like this.


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Nov 07, 2009 23:12 |  #3093

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Jeff, in the first shot, see how the studio owner (?) is a bit distorted? Could be just me, but, he seems a bit 'stretched' if that makes sense?

As for the shots from the show...probably don't even have time to get to them, till this coming week. I'm shooting two models tomorrow...so, maybe I'll put up a sneak peak, when I have a chance. Also went to an airshow this morning/afternoon so, will have some pics from that, too.

I gotta get off of this 7 day schedule. :lol:

Man, you are a busy boy! ;) Don't forget your vitamins to keep up your strength. :lol:

About the distortion mentioned, the man in the picture is a fairly overweight dude and a bit embarrassed and camera shy so I had him strike a pose that seemed to make him look a bit skinnier! I also purposely shot that pic a bit more open with the focus shifted away from him so that he could blend into the scene a bit better. Maybe I should just clone him out altogether? :confused:

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Nov 07, 2009 23:12 |  #3094

Hmm...do I smell a 17mm TS on the horizon? Darn expensive lens, but, I'm sure that thing is really a joy to use. :)

I wouldn't clone him out, if he's 'thinner' then, that much better. :)


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Nov 07, 2009 23:17 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #3095

Hey all want some constructive critisism..

HERE ARE THE FIRST SHOTS FROM MY 1DS2

Lense's were the 50m 1.8 and sig 70-300

http://www.facebook.co​m …d=1484238811&l=​aceb09cc37 (external link)

have a look and let me know too many to post individuals, i took over 150 shots at a party with a 580exII attached, these are the best of the lot,

PS first time with this camera, first time with the lense and first time with the flash,


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Nov 07, 2009 23:22 |  #3096

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Hey all want some constructive critisism..

HERE ARE THE FIRST SHOTS FROM MY 1DS2

Lense's were the 50m 1.8 and sig 70-300

http://www.facebook.co​m …d=1484238811&l=​aceb09cc37 (external link)

have a look and let me know too many to post individuals, i took over 150 shots at a party with a 580exII attached, these are the best of the lot,

PS first time with this camera, first time with the lense and first time with the flash,

Hi there and welcome!

They are almost underexposed on my screen, so maybe you should try to check your settings and flash, can you post your exif of some of those shots?

I am sure you can do great job as you have great camera and nice lenses specially 50 1.8.


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Nov 07, 2009 23:30 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #3097

will try get some exif data up it is possible , they are slightly underexposed, since all i did was crop and i am on my laptop at a hotspot , and the sun glaring off my monitor


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Nov 07, 2009 23:33 |  #3098

^^Not so bad, for the first batch of images, with new specs/equipment/etc. :)


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Nov 07, 2009 23:33 |  #3099

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will try get some exif data up it is possible , they are slightly underexposed, since all i did was crop and i am on my laptop at a hotspot , and the sun glaring off my monitor

I see, i understand this issue, but don't play with photos in this situation, you can't end up with many good exposed then because of the sun glaring if your monitor is not anti-glaring.

Try to shoot again with ISO 800 and f2-2.8 with your 50 1.8 and shutter speed 1/60 minimum without flash or set your flash power to about 1/8-1/16 and see how your results will be.


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Nov 07, 2009 23:39 |  #3100

Nice shots in the studio ! I was seeing the distortion that Manish mentioned also. A quick ( and not very good ) edit in CS3 came out like this. Not sure if you consider it "better" or not, but I think you can see the potential of maybe tweaking it a bit.


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Nov 07, 2009 23:54 |  #3101

Good edit, GMW. Nice of you to crop out that light, on the left, too. ;)

EDIT: Here's one, from the Airshow, at Jax Beach. An awesome day, pleasant breeze, temps in the high 70's I'd say??? A ton of fun, though, a long day.

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Nov 08, 2009 00:05 as a reply to  @ inthedeck's post |  #3102

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did some better quick edits now i am home,


basically was using P mode and iso 100, cant really do a reshoot but will keep playing had just enought time to charge batteries before the shoot, and also it was pretty danm dark at night with those danm energy saving lights, they cause some weird colours


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Nov 08, 2009 06:08 |  #3103

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Really good job, GoFM. My comments:

- last one looks too blue
- second to last one is a bit too warm

The WB/colour is different when you posted them individually vs. when you posted the composite. Did you do more editing or maybe the composite wasn't saved with an embedded profile?

Re: the distortion. This is caused by you standing too high. You could've minimized that bowing out of the lines by putting your camera halfway between the floor and ceiling in height. Now that might not have given you the perspective you wanted for shots like #1 but the closer you can get to the middle of that distance, the less wide-angle induced distortion you'll have.

Either that or you get a tilt/shift lens. Correcting the tilt distortion is their primary function when used for indoor real-estate/architectural shots like this.

First of all, thanks very much for your feedback!

I in fact did do some additional reprocessing of all the shots after I had posted the initial collage shot which explains the different WB issues between those.

The perspective distortions in the shots were intensional ones as the studio owner was originally asking for fisheye shots as he believed that was the only way to capture the entire room, that based on his prior shooting experience from years back when he took a photography course in college. I explained to him that my 14L prime was wide enough but could only produce key-stoning distortion if used badly off axis and sent him example pictures of what the lens could do with and without key-stoning distortion and he absolutely loved the badly key-stoned look, as I guess this looked somewhat close to a fisheye effect that he had in his mind. This is a classic example of "the customer is always right". :lol:

About the last shot being to blue; yep, with fresh eyes this morning, I can definitely see that. Thankfully, that shot though was just an alternate leftover shot.

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Hmm...do I smell a 17mm TS on the horizon? Darn expensive lens, but, I'm sure that thing is really a joy to use. :)

I wouldn't clone him out, if he's 'thinner' then, that much better. :)

While I'd love to have that lens too, as explained in my response to Hoff, it wouldn't have been the right tool for this particular job. ;)

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Nice shots in the studio ! I was seeing the distortion that Manish mentioned also. A quick ( and not very good ) edit in CS3 came out like this. Not sure if you consider it "better" or not, but I think you can see the potential of maybe tweaking it a bit.

Thanks for your feedback and photo edit example!

Your crop version looks cool but it cuts out two critical components in the frame. The lamp that was in the left corner was actually something the client actually insisted on it being in the frame as he felt the lighting of his studio was a key element in making it a comfortable space to be in. I even asked him if he would allow me to screw in a matching incandescent bulb into the fixture instead of the CF that was in it and he nixed the idea not wanting to change the authenticity of the lighting!

The second thing that you cropped out was the top half of one of the overhead drum microphones which he was also wanting to be in the shot.

I guess the important lesson I learned during this shot was that when you have a client who wants certain things in certain ways, your own shooting sensibilities have to take a back seat if you want to get paid. Luckily, most clients wouldn't be as particular as this one was and on future gigs, I'll have more control...hopefully! :lol:

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Nov 08, 2009 06:23 |  #3104

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did some better quick edits now i am home,

basically was using P mode and iso 100, cant really do a reshoot but will keep playing had just enought time to charge batteries before the shoot, and also it was pretty danm dark at night with those danm energy saving lights, they cause some weird colours

There seemed be a few decent shots there in your link but the obvious next step is to get you out of the P mode and get you to dive deeper into making full use of the 45 point AF system.

Those energy saving light can be a real pain to shoot under as Hoff explained a few posts back, they can have a vastly different color temp to your flash and any other lighting that might be in the shot. I'm struggling with that too so don't feel bad! ;)

Another thing I was noticing was that your flash setting, probably, full auto, were causing some blown high-lites so lean to use the flash exposure control on your camera so that you can take the flash a stop or two back to create a more natural look. Also bouncing the flash off of walls or ceiling can also help diffuse and tone down the light.

Anyway, the more you shoot and experiment, the better everything will start to look in very short order so have fun and get to learn about all the controls of your camera...it's an extremely powerful tool.

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Nov 08, 2009 06:26 |  #3105

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Good edit, GMW. Nice of you to crop out that light, on the left, too. ;)

EDIT: Here's one, from the Airshow, at Jax Beach. An awesome day, pleasant breeze, temps in the high 70's I'd say??? A ton of fun, though, a long day.

G'night now...and enjoy. I'll clean the dust spot, later. :lol:
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Cool shot Manish!

I think you have a cleaner sensor then me at the moment! :lol:

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