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May 05, 2010 10:42 |  #4906

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Grab a 17-40L! ;)

It's a really good general purpose landscape lens and will give you some nice wide perspectives with the full frame format.

A nifty 50 will be fairly limiting unless you're mostly just shooting people and portraits?

Cheers!

The price difference is enormous (if we are referring to an EF 50mm 1.8 ) so that may be somewhat of a concern. If you're looking to play that lotto over in Sigma land, there are some daring copies of the 50mm 1.4 that are like diamonds amongst anything less...but more likely (YMMV).

My copy of the 17-40mm 4L was a bad one (don't be an 'early adopter') so I sold it used although it hardly was ever. On a 5D even, I was without words with how disappointed I was with my copy. It was a terrible first impression of digital 35mm and it failed miserably. It made me in turn not have such a great impression of the 5D classic when I first had it (it was my first dSLR). Your mileage may (and most likely) vary from my own.

Today I see some fantastic results from this optic and all of the negativity that once clouded the internet for a bit is but a passing unknown these days. I wish the same could be said for the 50mm 1.2L but it seems that it shall be shrouded in mystery till the end of days.

I'm gonna stop this before this turns into a rant about the importance of quality optics to enjoy a camera of any prestige -- any at all.

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What the hell is an Error 04? I can't find it anywhere so please no "RTFM" post-happy responses; just any information in figuring out what this means as this plus the issue I'm having the exposure won't take with full suppression of the shutter button. I'm planning on sending it in to Canon because it needs a cleaning as well.

How much does the run-of-the-mill cost for 1Ds II users?

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May 05, 2010 11:49 |  #4907

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The price difference is enormous (if we are referring to an EF 50mm 1.8 ) so that may be somewhat of a concern. If you're looking to play that lotto over in Sigma land, there are some daring copies of the 50mm 1.4 that are like diamonds amongst anything less...but more likely (YMMV).

My copy of the 17-40mm 4L was a bad one (don't be an 'early adopter') so I sold it used although it hardly was ever. On a 5D even, I was without words with how disappointed I was with my copy. It was a terrible first impression of digital 35mm and it failed miserably. It made me in turn not have such a great impression of the 5D classic when I first had it (it was my first dSLR). Your mileage may (and most likely) vary from my own.

Today I see some fantastic results from this optic and all of the negativity that once clouded the internet for a bit is but a passing unknown these days. I wish the same could be said for the 50mm 1.2L but it seems that it shall be shrouded in mystery till the end of days.

I'm gonna stop this before this turns into a rant about the importance of quality optics to enjoy a camera of any prestige -- any at all.

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What the hell is an Error 04? I can't find it anywhere so please no "RTFM" post-happy responses; just any information in figuring out what this means as this plus the issue I'm having the exposure won't take with full suppression of the shutter button. I'm planning on sending it in to Canon because it needs a cleaning as well.

How much does the run-of-the-mill cost for 1Ds II users?

Thank you.

Error 04 means your memory card is full. Not sure why you'd send it to Canon for that but best of luck to you if you do. Personally, I think investing in a good sensor cleaning kit like the Arctic Butterfly is a better use of one's capital.

About the 17-40; whatever issues you had with yours is definitely not indicative of what current users and purchasers of this lens are experiencing. Mine was purchase 4 years ago and has been stellar. If you check the 17-40 sample image thread you'll find little to no complaints and a whole bunch of incredible pictures.

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May 05, 2010 12:40 |  #4908

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Have yet to get to test another lens. I have been having a good time breaking this bad boy in and kind of favored the foot-zoming fun and forgot about wide angle perspective options.

I will have to look into my personal functions as there are plenty of things that you've said that sound familiar to me; I'm just not sure if I enabled them or not.

Gonna have to find out because it's irritating as hell.

Now that you have additionally reported error 04 which relates to the memory card being full, I did the unthinkable and red the trouble-shooting section of the manual and it made reference to the card not being seated properly as a reason for why the shutter will not release. It also made mention of the focus indicator flashing on and off as a signal that focus has not been achieved and is why the shutter would not fire. It suggests manually focusing if AF can not be achieved and or making use of the full time manual focus ability of the lens to be employed while in the AF mode.

So, it would seem simply re-installing the card properly and focusing properly will fix your current issues.

Also, I'm happy to report that reading the trouble shooting section at the back of the manual was a much quicker means of finding a solution then posting the problem here and then having to wait for a response. While I appreciate people's apprehension to read the manual, I don't fully get how being willing to post and read through this thread as a quicker means of disseminating information?

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May 05, 2010 15:13 |  #4909

Just read a post about a guy looking to buy a 1D classic. Mentions 8fps, 1/500 sync speed and 1/16000 sec shutter.

So, the 1Dsmk2 - don't really need to tell you chaps the stats! I can understand the slowing of the fps due to file size..... but why the sync and shutter reductions?


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May 05, 2010 15:44 |  #4910

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Just read a post about a guy looking to buy a 1D classic. Mentions 8fps, 1/500 sync speed and 1/16000 sec shutter.

So, the 1Dsmk2 - don't really need to tell you chaps the stats! I can understand the slowing of the fps due to file size..... but why the sync and shutter reductions?

About the shutter speed downgrade, I've found that I can shoot straight into a mid day sun at 1/8000 th of a second and get a properly exposed shot and there's not too many things brighter then that, that you could shoot with the exception of an arc welding set up. Perhaps Canon thought that they could extend the life of the shutter if they slowed it down a bit? Perhaps there was power savings benefits too?

About the flash sync speeds, you have to keep in mind that the faster this speed goes, the higher the light output you need your flash to output in order to light the scene properly. I would assume this was reduced to create longer lasting flash heads that didn't suck you batteries dry after just a handful of shots and Canon would no doubt want to promote their own flash guns and boast about their power and efficiency first before maintaining some technically compromising specs that look best only on a spec sheet.

All of this, just my assumptions.

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May 05, 2010 15:54 |  #4911

I hope to have a 1dsii or 5d soon. This topic was really helpful in my research. Many thanks to those who contributed.




  
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May 05, 2010 16:47 |  #4912

Hey guys...just stoppin' in to say hi. Will be away from the homefront for a few days...so, catch ya when I am able to do so. :)


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May 05, 2010 17:30 |  #4913

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Hey guys...just stoppin' in to say hi. Will be away from the homefront for a few days...so, catch ya when I am able to do so. :)

Have fun and see you when you return! ;)

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May 05, 2010 20:29 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #4914

It was not the memory card causing the failed shutter attempts -- while yes after Error 04 I did change my card (and battery) to see if the issue would repeat.

No error code, but still some no-compliancy from the shutter. Huh.

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Now that you have additionally reported error 04 which relates to the memory card being full, I did the unthinkable and red the trouble-shooting section of the manual and it made reference to the card not being seated properly as a reason for why the shutter will not release. It also made mention of the focus indicator flashing on and off as a signal that focus has not been achieved and is why the shutter would not fire. It suggests manually focusing if AF can not be achieved and or making use of the full time manual focus ability of the lens to be employed while in the AF mode.

So, it would seem simply re-installing the card properly and focusing properly will fix your current issues.

Also, I'm happy to report that reading the trouble shooting section at the back of the manual was a much quicker means of finding a solution then posting the problem here and then having to wait for a response. While I appreciate people's apprehension to read the manual, I don't fully get how being willing to post and read through this thread as a quicker means of disseminating information?

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May 05, 2010 20:39 |  #4915

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It was not the memory card causing the failed shutter attempts -- while yes after Error 04 I did change my card (and battery) to see if the issue would repeat.

No error code, but still some no-compliancy from the shutter. Huh.

Drat!

I had a feeling you were gonna say that! :o

Well...what about the focusing issue? The trouble shooting guide talks about flashing intermittent focus indicators as a cause of the shutter not triggering and you did mention a low light scenario that you were trying to focus under. Can you shed some more light on if focusing manually solves this issue under those dimmer lighting conditions?

I'm still feeling that this is a user/interface issue more-so then an actual technical malfunction...meaning that while the camera does have a really good focusing engine, it will be handicapped by poorer lighting conditions and you may just have to learn to work with those by perhaps first setting focus with better light, switching the lens to manual focus to preserve the setting and then dimming your lights back or make use of modeling lights in your strobes, if they have that feature. Sending the camera in, I'm still thinking would be a wasted effort here.

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May 05, 2010 20:54 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #4916

Meanwhile, here's tonight's sunset...


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May 05, 2010 22:13 |  #4917

^ That's freakin' awesome Jeff... JUST AWESOME!!!

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May 05, 2010 22:25 |  #4918

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^ That's freakin' awesome Jeff... JUST AWESOME!!!

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Thanks man! ;)

I couldn't believe the sky when I looked out the window as it was raining most of the later part of the day and didn't expect to see any real colors tonight; but when I did, I grabbed my camera and ran outside to get the shot and didn't have time to properly frame it, that's why it's cropped the way it is.

I had one more shot of just after the sun fell completely below the horizon and by that time set up the shift control on the lens to properly catch more of the sky; that shot below...


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May 06, 2010 02:15 |  #4919

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #10125722 (external link)
Congrats!

Grab a 17-40L! ;)

It's a really good general purpose landscape lens and will give you some nice wide perspectives with the full frame format.

A nifty 50 will be fairly limiting unless you're mostly just shooting people and portraits?

Cheers!

Mostly people portraits yes. I am at home at 50mm.


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May 06, 2010 03:00 |  #4920

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #10129314 (external link)
Drat!

I had a feeling you were gonna say that! :o

Well...what about the focusing issue? The trouble shooting guide talks about flashing intermittent focus indicators as a cause of the shutter not triggering and you did mention a low light scenario that you were trying to focus under. Can you shed some more light on if focusing manually solves this issue under those dimmer lighting conditions?

I'm still feeling that this is a user/interface issue more-so then an actual technical malfunction...meaning that while the camera does have a really good focusing engine, it will be handicapped by poorer lighting conditions and you may just have to learn to work with those by perhaps first setting focus with better light, switching the lens to manual focus to preserve the setting and then dimming your lights back or make use of modeling lights in your strobes, if they have that feature. Sending the camera in, I'm still thinking would be a wasted effort here.

Cheers!

I mean, don't get me wrong...but should I do all these do-arounds or go about doing something about changing it? Has no one else really experienced this?

It was in my basement in an area where there were no lights on but all parts of the basement are attached via removed basement walls (and some were partially lit).

It had great difficulty hitting focus for almost minutes at a time and I was shooting single shots at a time so it wasn't a buffer issue either. I couldn't really explain it except for the continuously blinking AF indicator light and the follow-through with the last press didn't trigger the shutter. I even tried 'button mashing' a couple exposures to see if it helped and it didn't.

I'm hoping it is a user-to-UI error. I'd almost always confess that I was being a fool rather than pay the piper.

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The full shot where the cloud body is more than two thirds of the frame is awesome. Is that from your 17mm TS-E, eh?


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