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And the very top review mentions the black dot issue.
davekadolph "Fix the cigarette lighter" 6,140 posts Gallery: 1 photo Joined Mar 2007 Location: West Michigan--166.33 miles to the Cook County courthouse More info | Works for me HERE Middle age is when you can finally afford the things that a young man could truly enjoy.
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PictureNorthCarolina Gaaaaa! DOH!! Oops! 9,318 posts Likes: 248 Joined Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:12 | #272 Strange. Your direct link works fine. However, when I go back to the home page and go thru the menus (support / consumer / camera type and model, etc. and get to the page then click on the review link, I get the restricted url popup. Website
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swanseamale47 Member 32 posts Joined Dec 2008 More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:23 | #273 Sean wrote in post #6831035 Peoples expectations of stuff working 100% perfect out of the box, are WAY overblown. Sometimes things don't work, so they need to be fixed. No problem, but they automatically think it's the end of the world, because the hype, and expectation of the "perfect thing" leads to anti-climax. It only effects a small percentage of the shots, but people automatically assume it's a major flaw. Society runs on immediate gratification and if that cannot be achieved they feel they are being cheated out of something. Fear mongering. It's the new rage. Yes of course, how stupid are people expecting a brand new camera to work properly. My new ford focus only came with 3 wheels, just teething troubles!, it still goes around left hand corners ok, I'm sure they'll fix it with a recall.
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PictureNorthCarolina Gaaaaa! DOH!! Oops! 9,318 posts Likes: 248 Joined Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:35 | #274 Sean wrote in post #6831035 Peoples expectations of stuff working 100% perfect out of the box, are WAY overblown. swanseamale47 wrote in post #6831442 Yes of course, how stupid are people expecting a brand new camera to work properly. My new ford focus only came with 3 wheels, just teething troubles!, it still goes around left hand corners ok, I'm sure they'll fix it with a recall....Yes people do have higher expectations these day, it comes with price! Wayne Yea, I saw that but decided to leave it alone. Kinda' like kicking a dead dog, you know. Website
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TheGhostofFM Goldmember 3,982 posts Likes: 8 Joined Apr 2006 Location: Toronto More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:47 | #275 CannedHeat wrote in post #6831505 Yea, I saw that but decided to leave it alone. Kinda' like kicking a dead dog, you know. Sean, when you get that nice, new 50" flatpanel HDTV for Christmas, and when you take it out of the box, set it up and find out it doesn't power on, be sure to let us know how much you enjoyed boxing it back up and shipping it back- and how much you expected that to happen. If I purchase a 99 cent potato peeler at the dollar store and it don't work, I expect that. But when I pay thousands of dollars for a camera, you can be darn well sure I expect it to work "...perfect out of the box." Elitist!
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paddycook Member 107 posts Joined Oct 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:56 | #276 CannedHeat wrote in post #6831505 If I purchase a 99 cent potato peeler at the dollar store and it don't work, I expect that. But when I pay thousands of dollars for a camera, you can be darn well sure I expect it to work "...perfect out of the box." Actually I expect every product to work as advertised, regardless of price. Price is irrelevant. 5D Mk III, 17-40L, 24-105L, 50 1.8 Mk I, 70-200 2.8L IS II
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TheGhostofFM Goldmember 3,982 posts Likes: 8 Joined Apr 2006 Location: Toronto More info | Dec 07, 2008 15:59 | #277 paddycook wrote in post #6831618 Actually I expect every product to work as advertised, regardless of price. Price is irrelevant. In a perfect world, perhaps...not this one!
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Tsmith Formerly known as Bluedog_XT 10,429 posts Likes: 26 Joined Jul 2005 Location: South_the 601 More info | Dec 07, 2008 16:32 | #278 CannedHeat wrote in post #6831505 But when I pay thousands of dollars for a camera, you can be darn well sure I expect it to work "...perfect out of the box." As I did with my first 50D the day after it failed. Waited 4 weeks until trying another one, which has been alright so far.
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JohnnyG Worthless twinkle toes fairy 3,719 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Houston, Texas More info | Dec 07, 2008 17:14 | #279 I guess "disaster" is a bit too strong but I think "inconvenience" is too weak! Canon EOS 5D Mark II, 100-400IS L, 24-105 L[COLOR=black][FONT="] IS, 50mm f/1.4, Canon 430EX/580EX II, Kenko 1.5X, Epson R1900, Manfrotto 679B Monopod, 3021BPRO tripod, 808RC4 Head, 486RC2 Ballhead
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davekadolph "Fix the cigarette lighter" 6,140 posts Gallery: 1 photo Joined Mar 2007 Location: West Michigan--166.33 miles to the Cook County courthouse More info | Dec 07, 2008 17:45 | #280 JohnnyG wrote in post #6832077 I will probably wait until a fix is issued. I hate to see what this will do to Canon's reputation. I hope it doesn't hurt them greatly as some have said. An admission of a problem and a quick fix will mitigate that concern greatly. Lets hope there was a lesson learned from the MkIII fiasco--the last thing Canon needs is a list of possibly affected serial numbers--attempted and botched repairs--and a color code to sort the good from the questionable. Middle age is when you can finally afford the things that a young man could truly enjoy.
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SlowBlink "I like dog butts" 1,926 posts Joined Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver B.C. More info | Dec 07, 2008 17:49 | #281 If I was in the market for one I'd still buy it. I'd just keep my eye out for the updated firmware. Rob
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davidinjp Senior Member 324 posts Joined Feb 2008 Location: Tokyo More info | Dec 07, 2008 17:50 | #282 PermanentlySean wrote in post #6831035 Peoples expectations of stuff working 100% perfect out of the box, are WAY overblown. Sometimes things don't work, so they need to be fixed. No problem, but they automatically think it's the end of the world, because the hype, and expectation of the "perfect thing" leads to anti-climax. It only effects a small percentage of the shots, but people automatically assume it's a major flaw. Society runs on immediate gratification and if that cannot be achieved they feel they are being cheated out of something. Fear mongering. It's the new rage. Wow, you are a nicely trained consumer. You are right, we should bow down to your corporate gods and don't question authority. I mean the defects are acceptable and it's our fault for buying the product in the first place. How dare we expect to be gratified by our $2,700 purchase.
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TheHoff Don't Hassle.... 8,804 posts Likes: 21 Joined Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC More info | Dec 07, 2008 17:52 | #283 With the MK3 AF being more of a "physical" issue with moving parts and this (very likely) being a software/firmware issue, hopefully it can be resolved much more easily. ••Vancouver Wedding Photographer
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zman Senior Member 776 posts Likes: 11 Joined Oct 2006 Location: USA More info | Dec 07, 2008 18:18 | #284 I did the "christmas tree" and other tests and could not reproduce it..... maybe not all cameras are affected.
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BearLeeAlive All butt cheeks and string. 30,200 posts Likes: 70 Joined May 2005 Location: Calgary, AB More info | Dec 07, 2008 18:25 | #285 Wow, I just blasted through this thread. It would seem some folks have WAY too much time on their hands, and need to fill it with things to gripe about. -JIM-
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