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Dec 08, 2008 09:08 |  #1

Hello Folks
I am a new 40D user having bought the camera in July of this year. So far I have the 28-135 IS kit lens and a nifty-fifty! I am interested in getting a 'wider' lens to have more options for landscapes and so far have considered the following:

  • Canon 17-40
  • Canon 10-22
  • Sigma 10-20
  • Sigma 12-24
  • Sigma 17-70
  • Tamron 17-50

For me image quality is key and I am willing to spend a reasonable amount (i.e. up to £600) on a lens that will work well.
Having gone round in circles for some weeks now, I am thoroughly confused with respect to which is best for me. So much so, that I have considered an alternative option. The above lenses (new) retail for between £280-470. For around the upper level of that price, I could get a 1D Mk1 or possibly a 1Ds Mark 1 and just stick with my 28-135.
As I have always considered eventually getting a 1.3 or FF camera this would seems to be a reasonable option....or am I wide of the mark? Any thoughts?
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Dec 08, 2008 09:12 |  #2

I got a 10-22 for landscape and its off to Oz with me shortly doing the big and little Island ;)

I believe it can be used on the FF if you upgrade your body later ....

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Dec 08, 2008 09:22 as a reply to  @ M5Man's post |  #3

Roy,

I'm considering the same thing on the other end of focal length, keeping a crop body to make a 300 a 390.....

If you think you'll be going full frame or to a 1D in the future make sure any lens you buy wil work on that future body.

Not knowing anything about your finances and/or shooting habits I'd suggest a 17-40. I't pretty wide even on a crop camera and will work when you upgrade your body.

Or... you could pick up a used 10-22 and use it on your 40D until you were ready to make the switch and then just sell it. The more I think about this option, the more I like it.... Yeah, this is the route to go....

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Dec 08, 2008 09:29 |  #4

M5Man wrote in post #6836328 (external link)
I got a 10-22 for landscape and its off to Oz with me shortly doing the big and little Island ;)

I believe it can be used on the FF if you upgrade your body later ....

The 10-22 is an EF-S mount and can't be used on full frame cameras.


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Dec 08, 2008 09:31 as a reply to  @ andrewmr's post |  #5

Used camera or new lens? No question for me, get the lens. A used camera such as you suggest is available will be more likely to die, and sooner, than a new camera. Your 40D is a great piece of equipment, stick with that and learn more about photography first.

As to which wide angle to get, I am personally fond of the 10-22 for the 1.6 FOVCF cameras. No vignetting at the wide end (although there is a lot of distortion, which can be really fun), and at the long end you have a nice 35 mm equivalent lens. It is not the fastest or best built lens Canon ever made, but it gets the job done quite nicely.

I'm not a fan of the 17-40. Yes, it is an L lens, and the quality of the images as well as the build are second to none. I just have a tough time fitting it into what I already own. With a 24-105 L and the 10-22, I have all of that covered. If I were to buy something new, at least for me, it would be the 16-35 mm f/2.8. On the full frame 5D I would get the same field of view as the 10-22 on my 30D/50D.

In any event, I say get the lens, but it isn't my money! LOL


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Dec 08, 2008 10:07 as a reply to  @ MarKap77's post |  #6

When you only have a consumer level zoom lens, you will always get dramatically better IQ improvements from upgrading your glass than changing your camera body. There is very little to fault with the IQ from the 40D. Any improvements you may get from a better body will be almost completely cancelled out by putting a cheaper lens on it.


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Dec 08, 2008 10:11 |  #7

I am a 450D user and I can tell you that the 10-22 will be a wonderful lens and well worth it for your 40d


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Dec 08, 2008 10:13 |  #8

Cameras will come and go but good glass will out last many cameras and camera up grades. The 40D is a work horse and should serve you very well go for a long time. Just upgrade your glass for now.


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Dec 08, 2008 10:15 |  #9

Glass!!!! You won't notice much of a IQ increase with a new body compared to good glass. Upgrade your body when you have a specific reason to. Like you need added custom functions, you need better build quality, you need better AF etc.


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Dec 08, 2008 10:16 |  #10

Sold my 10-22 after getting a 5D but its a great lens.


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Dec 08, 2008 10:36 as a reply to  @ racketman's post |  #11

Don't overlook the Tokina 11-16 or 12-24. I have the 12-24, you wont be disappointed.

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Dec 09, 2008 04:08 as a reply to  @ lowrider's post |  #12

Ok - glass it is, but which one? After all the reviews I've read it seems the following are the shortlist, with prices from a local store where I could try each one:

  • Canon 10-22 (475)
  • Sigma 10-20 (£322)
  • Tokina 12-24 (£342)
  • Tokina 11-16 (£440)
As a wildcard, there is always the Canon 17-40 (£475)!

Who has what?

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Dec 09, 2008 04:21 |  #13

For a cropped camera you can not go past the UWA, I have used the Sigma 10-20 for the past couple of years with terrific results. You will find the 17mm not wide enough. I tossed up between the Canon 10-22 and the Sigma but on reading lots of reviews the Sigma had equal if not better IQ for a much cheaper price. As I am getting a FF camera I have just brought a 17-40 to take the place of my 10-20.


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