Hasselblad ..... which one?

I think with medium format its more than just MPs its also a host of other things just like the advantages of MF in film. I use to always get from 35mm photographers that unless the client goes 30 X 40 why medium format. Stu you know theres a difference even in smaller prints you've shot both.

I guess if someone has the $$$ and wants the gear its really his business. How many photographers have 1DsMkIII that really don't need that much camera?

I know a guy that has every Leica made in the M series. And he has some pretty rare ones. He's a great guy and the only reason he has these cameras is he has money. He didn't rob a bank or cheat anyone to get the money to buy these cameras. He's not a great photographer. But if he can afford it and it don't hurt nobody why not?

If this camera brings joy to the OP and he has the money its certainly his business and to those that haven't shot with a blad that don't get it well its something you should experience. MF is a different approach to photography than the one you take with smaller formats. Ansel Adams called Hasselblads small cameras. Its all what perspective you look at things from.

Tareq if this camera brings you joy and you use it who cares what anyone else thinks. The only argument you should have is I LIKE IT end of story. I wish I still had just one of my 500 C/Ms. I guess its good in a way because I would probably have dropped $$$ on a digital back and we all know how expensive those puppies are.

Guess I was being to subtle for some.

chauncey wrote in post #7780623
"1) Not running all the sentences together (to make it easier to read),

2) Breaking your sentences up into shorter lengths for easier reading, and

3) Using paragraph breaks - again to make your posts easier to read, and respond to."

Tareq, what part of that don't you understand?

I don't understand all the parts.

Naaaaahhh........ .

chauncey wrote in post #7780866
Guess I was being to subtle for some.

Tareq, in general, when you write your lenghty entries you tend to post them in very large paragraphs with very long sentences that are hard to read. Is this how you write in your native language? I suspect not - I don't know of a better way to answer your question........ I give up.

Tareq wrote in post #7780937
I don't understand all the parts.

sapearl wrote in post #7780962
Tareq, in general, when you write your lenghty entries you tend to post them in very large paragraphs with very long sentences that are hard to read. Is this how you write in your native language? I suspect not - I don't know of a better way to answer your question........ I give up.

Check out Arabic Text on Google... I suspect you are wrong

Oh well, cultural differences I guess........ but one of the more interesting aspects of POTN .

neil_r wrote in post #7780991
Check out Arabic Text on Google... I suspect you are wrong

OK, now i understand it, you should said that i should summarize or make it briefly, like instead to post 10 lines or 8 i should keep within 2 o3 lines or less but has all the necesarry meaning.

OK, i understand that, but sometimes if i shortage my posts some can't understand what i am thinking or meaning if i can't explain it in very shorts sentences but it is about 70% meaningless, i also have difficult time to right less with more meaning and full understandable, but i am sure you are people so smart enough to know what i want with even 2 words, BY THE WAY, even in Arabic we have a saying that" The best words/saying are the less words and full meaning" or whatever meaning you can understand it.

Anyway, back to topic, i just was hoping to get the opportunity, as Hasselblad has many offers or promotions that i will never have any other place, i can afford any cheap medium format in the past but i know myself i will go for the best MFs and that H3D is one of the best, it is non sense i buy a Sinar and Mamyia or Hasselblad film bodies and then i buy something else, or buy P25+ or P30+ which are not cheap as new at all but i know i want P45+ or P65+ now, i bought 39 because i can afford it now not before but i was thinking about 50mp, so if Hasselblad said that i can exchange 39mp with 50 or 50 with 60 with only different in price then why i miss the chance? here the price of 50mp is same of the price of 39 about 4-5 months ago, so that i feel that i was in rush, so with that case i can afford the 50mp now if the price is very small between 39 and 50, because i can't pay for $27k for 50mp but now it is $21k same as my 39mp then i can go with 50mp, who knows, in the future that 50mp may go up to $27k again, so i hope now you got my points ...... I LOVE ALL H3Ds.

do you often shoot for royalty/VIPs?

Well put Stu. We all tend to forget that different cultures also have different preceptions about the world than ours.

Stu,
Are you starting to become stupid, forgetting all you knew about shooting film!

Don't forget that Medium Format puts about (...the aspect ratio is different!) the same framed scene into a larger frame, so that you can enlarge to the same magnification factor yet end up with a larger final print. So where you might be stretching things to do a 20x enlargement of 135/FFand end up with about 20"x30" print, when you enlarge the film 645 format the same amount, you would end up with about 36"x49" print.

At the same time, with film you get the identical sized film grains in Medium Format film as you would get with 135 format film, so you have the larger print size from medium format, without any increase in visibility of grain. And, with medium format you also have better tonality due to more film grains or color clouds per unit area of the subject.

Move these points into the digital realm...with a 5DII you have 24x36mm frame and 5616x3744 pixels, with the H3D-50 you have 36.8x49.1mm frame and 8176x6132 pixels. The 5DII has 156 pixels per mm on sensor, the H3D-50 has 167 pixels per mm on sensor. So at the same 20x mag factor, the H3D delivers 7% more pixels in the same linear distance, or almost 15% more pixels per area. So it is somewhat analogous to not only having more film grains or color clouds per area of the subject, but also having finer grained film in the camera to shoot the same shot!

I will up the bid for Tareq's H3D to $2100, plus shipping and plus Paypal fee.

"Tareq" "Anyway, back to topic, i just was hoping to get the opportunity, as Hasselblad has many offers or promotions that i will never have any other place,

i can afford any cheap medium format in the past but i know myself i will go for the best MFs and that H3D is one of the best,
it is non sense i buy a Sinar and Mamyia or Hasselblad film bodies and then i buy something else, or buy P25+ or P30+ which are not cheap as new at all but i know i want P45+ or P65+ now,

i bought 39 because i can afford it now not before but i was thinking about 50mp, so if Hasselblad said that i can exchange 39mp with 50 or 50 with 60 with only different in price then why i miss the chance?

here the price of 50mp is same of the price of 39 about 4-5 months ago, so that i feel that i was in rush, so with that case i can afford the 50mp now if the price is very small between 39 and 50,
because i can't pay for $27k for 50mp but now it is $21k same as my 39mp then i can go with 50mp, who knows, in the future that 50mp may go up to $27k again, so i hope now you got my points ...... I LOVE ALL H3Ds."

I believe that this was Stu's point

Tareq wrote in post #7781250
OK, now i understand it, you should said that i should summarize or make it briefly, like instead to post 10 lines or 8 i should keep within 2 o3 lines or less but has all the necesarry meaning.

OK, i understand that, but sometimes if i shortage my posts some can't understand what i am thinking or meaning if i can't explain it in very shorts sentences but it is about 70% meaningless, i also have difficult time to right less with more meaning and full understandable, but i am sure you are people so smart enough to know what i want with even 2 words, BY THE WAY, even in Arabic we have a saying that" The best words/saying are the less words and full meaning" or whatever meaning you can understand it.

I don't think the suggestion was to shorten the message or summarize, but rather make a post with multiple segments. In other words, have some blank horizontal lines (space) in between the different topics you talk about in a single post.

Like this space^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hope this helps, POTN is a great place to share and learn.

Tom, you obviously illustrated the point much better than I did - my suggestion was apparently "lost in translation....."

tomd wrote in post #7781840
I don't think the suggestion was to shorten the message or summarize, but rather make a post with multiple segments. In other words, have some blank horizontal lines (space) in between the different topics you talk about in a single post.

Like this space^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hope this helps, POTN is a great place to share and learn.