Hasselblad ..... which one?

If you can afford it I say go for it, but financing it would just put you in debt, a time where debt is not such a good idea. You just need to ask yourself whether you need to go that far. Hasselblad digitals are very expensive. If you are going to get the 30MP one, why not get a 1Ds Mark III? OR Wait for the 1Ds Mark IV, it might be 30MP.

Tough call. Big sensor = big pixels = tres awesomenicity

I played with an MF digital back once, a Mamiya 645AFD, P45 back, 120 macro prime manual focus:

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Dan, here's a $500 4x5 view camera and a scanner at work. This would naturally enlarge to the size of a wall at 300 dpi.

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Pretty impressive Doc - film still has a few tricks up it's sleeve . - Stu

I asked that salesman before if he can sell that H3D as a film camera, so it will not be H3D maybe, so if i want to buy a digital back later i will do that.
I read about many many medium and large formats camera, but always i end up to wish to get H3D no doubt, i can get Mamyia or even Hasselblad H2 or 500 series but as long i am staying with digital i feel that i will hate o use film these days and go to lab and scanning, will take longer time than getting file digitally from the camera itself.
I know it is very expensive, but as i said above, i am always dreaming about this H3D camera and i was going to save for it sooner or later, i know many here think it is a bad idea to buy this camera for few print and no much using, yes i agree, but it is that collecting bug, and when i used H3D once in the shop even i don't know how to use it i felt i hate all my Canon gear.

@Brianch, I have 1Ds MarkIII

To be honest, many Medium Formats with digital back if above 30mp will be very expensive, because digital back is so expensive itself, so technically if i think about any good enough medium format with digital back then i have to e ready to spend above $10k, i don't want even Mamyia ZD kit which coming in about $9000

Sinar and Phase one Digital backs coming closer in prices with Hasselblad, but i don't know why i see in many shots somewhere that Hasselblad is most used with Mamyia more than Sinar or Phose one [Some using Phase one digital back on Mamyia, but Phose one cameras are not common used maybe].

Well Tareq, if that's your dream camera and you don't mind an effective cost of several hundred dollars per print I say go for it. You can obviously afford it and I'm happy for you.

I don't mean to sound negative - no pun intended - but not having your resources the majority of us have to take a more practical approach to financing our photography. As a result some of us have difficulty identifying with your purchase dilemma, especially with the way our local economies are going. The purchase price of that 'blad is enough to pay the downpayment on a modest home here.

That's my choice, too.

You get PC (perspective control) which is a bonus. Wait a few years & the price of the Blad you want will be cut in half when other people upgrade.

DrPablo wrote in post #6880165
Dan, here's a $500 4x5 view camera and a scanner at work. This would naturally enlarge to the size of a wall at 300 dpi.

Cheater. Everyone knows that film, being analog, is essentially infinite pixels

Tareq wrote in post #6881041
I asked that salesman before if he can sell that H3D as a film camera, so it will not be H3D maybe, so if i want to buy a digital back later i will do that.
I read about many many medium and large formats camera, but always i end up to wish to get H3D no doubt, i can get Mamyia or even Hasselblad H2 or 500 series but as long i am staying with digital i feel that i will hate o use film these days and go to lab and scanning, will take longer time than getting file digitally from the camera itself.
I know it is very expensive, but as i said above, i am always dreaming about this H3D camera and i was going to save for it sooner or later, i know many here think it is a bad idea to buy this camera for few print and no much using, yes i agree, but it is that collecting bug, and when i used H3D once in the shop even i don't know how to use it i felt i hate all my Canon gear.

@Brianch, I have 1Ds MarkIII

To be honest, many Medium Formats with digital back if above 30mp will be very expensive, because digital back is so expensive itself, so technically if i think about any good enough medium format with digital back then i have to e ready to spend above $10k, i don't want even Mamyia ZD kit which coming in about $9000

Even a 21mp MF digital back is superior to FF digital. You just can't get past those big pixels.

sapearl wrote in post #6881772
Well Tareq, if that's your dream camera and you don't mind an effective cost of several hundred dollars per print I say go for it. You can obviously afford it and I'm happy for you.

I don't mean to sound negative - no pun intended - but not having your resources the majority of us have to take a more practical approach to financing our photography. As a result some of us have difficulty identifying with your purchase dilemma, especially with the way our local economies are going. The purchase price of that 'blad is enough to pay the downpayment on a modest home here.

We don't have that problem in financial as you had, maybe my income is not good enough at all, but our economy is still great, UAE doing all the best to be good in economy and what happened there will make us to have a lesson and not do mistakes.

I know it is expensive as i said, and i will not pay the full cash, just in parts, the guy told me he will do that to help me to get into Medium Format world by Haselblad, and i know myself even if i use another MF film i will never stop thinking about Hasselblad, so i waste more money to test some cheaper MF cameras if i know i will end up with Hasselblad? i go direct to Hassy and save more than trying many MFs.

PhotosGuy wrote in post #6881877
That's my choice, too. You get PC (perspective control) which is a bonus. Wait a few years & the price of the Blad you want will be cut in half when other people upgrade.

I didn't get the point, is that mean i have to get a used one? and why i should always waiting? ofcourse i will look for latest gear anyway, so even those people will upgrade theirs so the old blads will be cheaper i will look at the latest hassy, will that make any difference then.

danpass wrote in post #6881882
Cheater. Everyone knows that film, being analog, is essentially infinite pixels

danpass wrote in post #6881893
Even a 21mp MF digital back is superior to FF digital. You just can't get past those big pixels.

Thats what i think too, even 16mp MF is better than 21mp FF DSLR, so if i go with 39mp MF or more, which DSLR can be equivalent now then?

Toward the bottom of this page you can download full size files (Phase One digital back) to compare various MF sizes with the Canon 1DsM3.

http://www.captureinte​gration.com/tests/comp​arisons/


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danpass wrote in post #6882093
Toward the bottom of this page you can download full size files (Phase One digital back) to compare various MF sizes with the Canon 1DsM3.

http://www.captureinte​gration.com/tests/comp​arisons/


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OK, i will give it a look, thanks!
Too bad they didn't add anything from Hassy H3D, as this is the only MF i am looking at.

do you not like the 1Ds Mark III>? o.0

Based on everything he's said so far I believe it is simply the GIGANTIC file sizes he's after as well as the Hasselblad name. Part of that I can understand. For years I shot MF Mamiya which did the job, until I could afford the Hassy and those Zeiss lenses.

I could see the difference in that jump. But to do what he is proposing for the type of work I contract, it would not be cost effective, my clients don't care/don't see the difference, and I simply could not afford it. But that's just me .

brianch wrote in post #6882688
do you not like the 1Ds Mark III>? o.0