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Dec 15, 2008 21:07 |  #46

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OK, i will check with the guy, for me if i can't get 50 then i will start with 39 anyway, still it was my dream before that 50 is coming out, and the salesman told me that i can use 39mp now, and when i have more money the difference between 39 and 50 then i can replace my 39 with 50 without buying 50 again full cash, and in this way i can stay upgrading in less spending than keeping bodies and pay again full for new body, but i hope i hope i can earn more these days coming, so then i can go with 50 instead of 39mp, i can't wait to use it [any] and learn with it fast so i will start higher level in my area when i can, just i didn't start any business in photography as many there out using Medium formats and many agencies or companies here wants those over DSLRs owners, it is really ridiculous so fine, i will get a MF and see what they will say then.

how is the market for the digital backs? you could get the 39 now, sell it later and get the 50.. because 50... is 50... that would be insane resolution and detail. DROOOOOL


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Dec 15, 2008 22:07 |  #47

Thanks all.
For now i should think about myself, it is a tool at the end, and i don't care much about the business issue, some people can afford expensive tools even they don't use it professionally and some professionals can't afford it but they have to rent or earn money by their profession to fund their tools, ok, i will start a business sooner or later not in photography, so in this case i am not worry about money, and because i am addicted to photography so badly, i don't care what tool i use, who knows, maybe i will not get Hasselblad at all and get something else.


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Dec 16, 2008 12:32 |  #48

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Thanks all.
For now i should think about myself, it is a tool at the end, and i don't care much about the business issue, some people can afford expensive tools even they don't use it professionally and some professionals can't afford it but they have to rent or earn money by their profession to fund their tools, ok, i will start a business sooner or later not in photography, so in this case i am not worry about money, and because i am addicted to photography so badly, i don't care what tool i use, who knows, maybe i will not get Hasselblad at all and get something else.

Hey Tareq;

You only live once & if you don't do it when you have the chance you'll regret it forever. In 1966 I passed up the chance to buy a brand new Corvette. I could afford the payments but not the insurance. Do I regret that decision? You bet I do.


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Dec 16, 2008 13:12 |  #49

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Hey Tareq;

You only live once & if you don't do it when you have the chance you'll regret it forever. In 1966 I passed up the chance to buy a brand new Corvette. I could afford the payments but not the insurance. Do I regret that decision? You bet I do.

Today i was in the store, got one nice A3 catalog of Hasselblad, talking with the guy but i didn't ask him about the offer, just at the end he told me new cameras will be coming next week, so i will get ready coming weeks and get some cash and then i have to be closer to my dream.


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Dec 16, 2008 15:28 |  #50

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You only live once & if you don't do it when you have the chance you'll regret it forever.

A camera that is more expensive than it's worth isn't exactly a 1966 corvette. Getting a brand new Leica M-series is the closest analogy, or a Hasselblad V-series SLR, because they are timeless cameras.

Go check a retirement calculator to see how much $10,000 will be worth in 40 years if you just invest it in the S&P 500 or something (especially now with a depressed market). If historical trends continue, it could appreciate to $100,000 by retirement. On the other hand, $10,000 spent on camera equipment will be money that depreciates very rapidly, and if you sell the camera in 3 years you'll probably only get $3,000 for it. So will the advantage of this camera be worth that net expenditure??


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Dec 16, 2008 15:43 |  #51

DO IT!

i have no idea which model is best for you but to own and enjoy such a legend......


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Dec 16, 2008 15:47 |  #52

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A camera that is more expensive than it's worth isn't exactly a 1966 corvette. Getting a brand new Leica M-series is the closest analogy, or a Hasselblad V-series SLR, because they are timeless cameras.

Go check a retirement calculator to see how much $10,000 will be worth in 40 years if you just invest it in the S&P 500 or something (especially now with a depressed market). If historical trends continue, it could appreciate to $100,000 by retirement. On the other hand, $10,000 spent on camera equipment will be money that depreciates very rapidly, and if you sell the camera in 3 years you'll probably only get $3,000 for it. So will the advantage of this camera be worth that net expenditure??

Back around 1964, my dad and I looked at a Shelby Cobra 327 on the used car lot (I was still too young to drive)... at $6000 it was too rich for our blood (when gas was only $0.25 a gallon and houses were $20-25k in California!) Too bad, because that 'extravagance' would now be worth $250k.


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Dec 16, 2008 17:43 |  #53

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That's my choice, too. You get PC (perspective control) which is a bonus. Wait a few years & the price of the Blad you want will be cut in half when other people upgrade.

I didn't get the point, is that mean i have to get a used one? and why i should always waiting? ofcourse i will look for latest gear anyway, so even those people will upgrade theirs so the old blads will be cheaper i will look at the latest hassy, will that make any difference then.

I quoted the point, "only for some work in studio and advertiement in the future"
You'll need a PC lens for Blad if you're doing product shots. A view camera has that capability built in.
I get the feeling that you don't really care to hear that, so have fun with whatever you get.


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Dec 16, 2008 18:41 |  #54

DrPablo wrote in post #6890750 (external link)
A camera that is more expensive than it's worth isn't exactly a 1966 corvette. Getting a brand new Leica M-series is the closest analogy, or a Hasselblad V-series SLR, because they are timeless cameras.

Go check a retirement calculator to see how much $10,000 will be worth in 40 years if you just invest it in the S&P 500 or something (especially now with a depressed market). If historical trends continue, it could appreciate to $100,000 by retirement. On the other hand, $10,000 spent on camera equipment will be money that depreciates very rapidly, and if you sell the camera in 3 years you'll probably only get $3,000 for it. So will the advantage of this camera be worth that net expenditure??

In this instance it doesn't matter what the item is or what it will be worth in 3 yrs or 40 yrs. we're talking about instant gratification. When I was drooling over a '66 Vette I wasn't thinking about it's value in 40 yrs - just how cool it'd be to own & drive one. Same for anything else including cameras.


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Dec 16, 2008 18:55 |  #55

All right -- is instant gratification worth $10,000? I hate to be a downer when he's enthusiastic, but he has never presented a case that justifies why he needs this camera, and it's an awfully expensive impulse to follow. And write it down that the H3D is NOT a timeless camera the way a Leica M7 is, or the way a Deardorff 8x10 is. In 3 years the entire world will forget about the H3D. Everyone will think about Hasselblad glass, as they have for generations, but the digital bodies are just a blink in the night.

Read this again:

i didn't start any business in photography as many there out using Medium formats and many agencies or companies here wants those over DSLRs owners, it is really ridiculous so fine, i will get a MF and see what they will say then.

What they'll say if he gets a digital MF will be absolutely nothing if his shots aren't any good. I can give you the world's best golf clubs and you're not going to be Tiger Woods either.


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Dec 16, 2008 19:01 as a reply to  @ DrPablo's post |  #56

Speak'n of great glass. One of my favorite Hassy Zeiss lenses and for a real good price. Man to bad I'm tapped out right now.
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Dec 16, 2008 19:11 |  #57

Maybe I'm late, but why don't you just rent one?


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Dec 16, 2008 19:16 |  #58

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All right -- is instant gratification worth $10,000? I hate to be a downer when he's enthusiastic, but he has never presented a case that justifies why he needs this camera, and it's an awfully expensive impulse to follow. And write it down that the H3D is NOT a timeless camera the way a Leica M7 is, or the way a Deardorff 8x10 is. In 3 years the entire world will forget about the H3D. Everyone will think about Hasselblad glass, as they have for generations, but the digital bodies are just a blink in the night.

I don't think that he (Tareq) has a real need for this purchase. It's more of a want & he apparently has the money available. Remember, It's his money & if spending this much on a camera causes no financial (or otherwise) hardship then it's his decision to indulge.

Two years ago I retired & bought a 5D as a retirement gift to myself. Did I need it? No, I was done with full time photography, I wanted it and I have enjoyed it tremendously.


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Dec 16, 2008 19:40 |  #59

Don't worry about the haters who practically demand that you send all your money to the government so they can send it to starving people in a remote village and that you hate yourself for being successful .

Let's see some pics :D


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Dec 16, 2008 20:14 |  #60

Tixeon wrote in post #6891987 (external link)
I don't think that he (Tareq) has a real need for this purchase. It's more of a want & he apparently has the money available. Remember, It's his money & if spending this much on a camera causes no financial (or otherwise) hardship then it's his decision to indulge.

Two years ago I retired & bought a 5D as a retirement gift to myself. Did I need it? No, I was done with full time photography, I wanted it and I have enjoyed it tremendously.

Understood, but his posts make me think that he is a young person trying to start out a career -- not someone retired who of necessity has a good handle on his assets.


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