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Dec 14, 2008 20:07 |  #1

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Dec 14, 2008 20:09 |  #2

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Dec 14, 2008 20:14 |  #3

That's what I thought. How do i fix it? The shot was taken with a 430ex on camera with the "flash" white balance and an A1 shift. I think it looks too red.


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Dec 14, 2008 20:42 |  #4

D_CeLiRaToR wrote in post #6879099 (external link)
That's what I thought. How do i fix it? The shot was taken with a 430ex on camera with the "flash" white balance and an A1 shift. I think it looks too red.

Yea, it looks too red. Quick easy fix would be to use the Saturation tool in whatever editing program you use and just back off the reds a bit. A more proper way would be to use the Curves tool to do the same thing. If this was shot in RAW you could also try adjusting the white balance as well...there's really a half dozen ways you could fix this :D.

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Dec 14, 2008 20:51 |  #5

Thank you. I lowered the red saturation but now i think it looks a little flat.

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Dec 15, 2008 11:42 |  #6

Before fixing this photo, I think you should look into fixing that leaky roof ;) . But seriously, your second effort doesn't look too flat to me, but, if does to you maybe at a little contrast to it. Colors look much better as well in your edit.


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Dec 15, 2008 19:10 |  #7

Your adjustment looks pretty good to me. Now just even out the light across the image and you'll be in pretty good shape.


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Dec 15, 2008 19:29 as a reply to  @ Titus213's post |  #8

I think that the main reason that the image color balance seemed to be too red is that the image is underexposed. This is sort of a difficult shooting situation where the room lighting is low with the need to have good lighting over a fairly large depth of field. I presume that you were using one or more flash units. If you have several flash units, they could be placed at various locations and aimed so that they give bounce lighting off the ceiling.

It appears that you were standing at an elevated location so that the camera was being aimed downward towards the group -- because the lens is fairly wide angle, it has produced some noticeable perspective distortion in the shape of the room. I think that it would help to shift your position to the left by a few feet if possible and also to keep the camera's line-of-sight level.


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Dec 15, 2008 19:51 |  #9

You might also consider evening out the brightness of the print of the with a gradient curves adjustment layer.


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Dec 15, 2008 20:45 |  #10

Thanks guys. I'm still learning how to use photoshop but I will work on it some more.

jetboy wrote in post #6882515 (external link)
Before fixing this photo, I think you should look into fixing that leaky roof ;) . But seriously, your second effort doesn't look too flat to me, but, if does to you maybe at a little contrast to it. Colors look much better as well in your edit.

haha yah I didn't even notice the ceiling but the building is from the 1800's so there's sure to be some problems. Since I don't own it I'm not too worried though ;)

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I think that the main reason that the image color balance seemed to be too red is that the image is underexposed. This is sort of a difficult shooting situation where the room lighting is low with the need to have good lighting over a fairly large depth of field. I presume that you were using one or more flash units. If you have several flash units, they could be placed at various locations and aimed so that they give bounce lighting off the ceiling.

It appears that you were standing at an elevated location so that the camera was being aimed downward towards the group -- because the lens is fairly wide angle, it has produced some noticeable perspective distortion in the shape of the room. I think that it would help to shift your position to the left by a few feet if possible and also to keep the camera's line-of-sight level.

yah the lighting was very poor and although I do have 2 studio strobes, all I had with me was my 430ex which I did a ceiling bounce with. You are correct about my position, there was a wall directly to my left so I had to shoot at an angle. The lens was a 17-55 at the wide end. Camera settings were f10 1/200th @iso200. Should I have raised the ISO?


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Dec 16, 2008 01:16 |  #11

D_CeLiRaToR wrote in post #6885889 (external link)
..... Should I have raised the ISO?

Not unless it was too dark to recover in Photoshop on the far left side. Otherwise, you would just trade one set of problems for some others -- higher ISO would mean more noise and also the likelihood of overexposing the right side of the image.

I just bought a second 580EX and now I wish that I had three of them. One can never have enough flash units. ;)


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Dec 16, 2008 11:47 |  #12

Be careful when asking this question to others online.

We are all using different monitors with different color profiles/calibration (if any), different browsers (some of which do not support color profiles) in different light conditions.

The best way to tell is by calibrating your monitors (correctly)...that way you'd KNOW your colors are right (b/c the rest of the world will most likely not see the exact same colors you see due to the aforementioned reasons).

But it does look better for the most part as far as I can tell on my monitors.




  
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Dec 16, 2008 18:27 |  #13

my monitor is calibrated with the spyder2 but i use a laptop so it seems the colors change depending on viewing angle. that and i think i'm just partially color blind lol.


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