Is the rave on the 5D MkII over?

MinhThien wrote in post #6896858
Hey FlyingPhotog,

I downloaded a 5dmk2 raw files and open it in Lightroom2.2 then imported to CS3! Guess you don't need the CS4 after all!

I didn't think the necessary ACR was included with the migration to LR 2.2...

But I guess it was. Good Deal...

The magic isnt gone, the rest of us are just waiting for any shortage to end.

From what I have seen from all the samples (Thank you everyone ) the black dot issue and banding issue does not affect each body so its not a huge concern to me. I would be willing to bet Canon will help those that have this problem with an update.

As for the cost of the video mode; You cant be paying for much! Maybe a 50cent mic? Look at the price of the original and be happy!

The magic is still there for me.

The magic is still there for me and I haven't even touched the video facility. Also, despite trying, I have not experienced black spot, banding or any other issue.

Peter Ho wrote in post #6896145
For me I personally feel that the video addition is one thing that many do not want. For me I feel that if I were to get the 5D I would be paying for something that I do not want. Maybe Canon can offer an option to buyers like me who just want a camera and not a video.

so wait, canon upgrades almost every spec on the camera, LOWERS the price, and now you're going to cry that they also threw movies in the sweeten the deal?

I guess they can't please everyone. Don't buy it and move on, but those of us with the camera all seem pretty thrilled with it from what I've read.

jacobsen1 wrote in post #6897070
so wait, canon upgrades almost every spec on the camera, LOWERS the price, and now you're going to cry that they also threw movies in the sweeten the deal?

I guess they can't please everyone. Don't buy it and move on, but those of us with the camera all seem pretty thrilled with it from what I've read.

Agreed, nearly everyone that actually owns the camera is very happy with it. There is so much negative feedback, if you can call it that, from people who haven't even picked one up, let alone spent some time shooting with it!

Ianfp wrote in post #6897125
from people who haven't even picked one up,

to name a few.... all from people w/o the camera, who haven't touched one, and w/o a clue.

I'm all for people opinions on a camera, but to me the 5Dii has the most false information floating around about it I've ever seen, and it's all spread by people who haven't touched one.... Were they even in the market? Are they nikon fans? Did they just want something canon just didn't make (1 series sealing and AF seem popular) and now they're sour grapes?

Ianfp wrote in post #6897125
Agreed, nearly everyone that actually owns the camera is very happy with it. There is so much negative feedback, if you can call it that, from people who haven't even picked one up, let alone spent some time shooting with it!

Again, I love my Mark II
I love the black dots even more

In case anyone missed this:
https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=6896277&p​ostcount=1

Canon has released their official "White Paper" on the 50D and 5DMkII

Peter Ho wrote in post #6896145
What do you think?

Well, I think overall the 5D MKII is a good upgrade (considering the price point). I do question Canon's decision to put video in the camera. I would rather they put their R&D and money towards an improved AF system (say a 20-25 AF system), built in wireless flash control (like Nikon cameras) without the need for an ST-E2.

While people were initially excited about the video, now that the camera is actually out and people have got a chance to play with it, I think the excitment has died down. There was great dissappointment to know that you cannot control aperture in video mode, so people now have to "trick" the camera to get the aperture they desire. I wish they would have saved the video for the XXXD camera's, which would appear to be closer to the target market for video in SLR (the market being people who upgraded from their P&S to their first SLR, and were used to doing video in the P&S). Evidentally Nikon thought that this was where the market was at, because they opted to put video in their D90 (more consumer focused), than in their D3, D300, D700 which are more pro-focused.

Again, while I don't fully agree with all of the features Canon put into the 5D MKII I still think it's a good buy for it's price point.

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #6897182
While people were initially excited about the video, now that the camera is actually out and people have got a chance to play with it, I think the excitment has died down. There was great dissappointment to know that you cannot control aperture in video mode, so people now have to "trick" the camera to get the aperture they desire. I wish they would have saved the video for the XXXD camera's, which would appear to be closer to the target market for video in SLR (the market being people who upgraded from their P&S to their first SLR, and were used to doing video in the P&S). Evidentally Nikon thought that this was where the market was at, because they opted to put video in their D90 (more consumer focused), than in their D3, D300, D700 which are more pro-focused.

didn't people say the same exact thing about liveview originally?

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #6897182
Well, I think overall the 5D MKII is a good upgrade (considering the price point). I do question Canon's decision to put video in the camera. I would rather they put their R&D and money towards an improved AF system (say a 20-25 AF system), built in wireless flash control (like Nikon cameras) without the need for an ST-E2.

While people were initially excited about the video, now that the camera is actually out and people have got a chance to play with it, I think the excitment has died down. There was great dissappointment to know that you cannot control aperture in video mode, so people now have to "trick" the camera to get the aperture they desire. I wish they would have saved the video for the XXXD camera's, which would appear to be closer to the target market for video in SLR (the market being people who upgraded from their P&S to their first SLR, and were used to doing video in the P&S). Evidentally Nikon thought that this was where the market was at, because they opted to put video in their D90 (more consumer focused), than in their D3, D300, D700 which are more pro-focused.

Again, while I don't fully agree with all of the features Canon put into the 5D MKII I still think it's a good buy for it's price point.

I think instead of target you meant "appropriate" market? How do you know the appropriate market is limited only to that class of people you mentioned? The 5D Mark II and D90 are the first generation of SLRs with HD video capture, so I don't think we can say there is conclusive evidence to say what the appropriate/ideal market is. If Canon put HD video recording on their 5D prosumer/pro camera, wouldn't they be "targeting" prosumers and professionals?

Also, it doesn't seem impossible for Canon to improve the video capture on the software side to allow for aperture control.

*edit
I don't think the excitement has died down. Before I actually received my Mark II, I was checking POTN multiple times per day to see what the news was. After I got mine last week, I didn't visit POTN for a week. I'm sure other people had similar experiences to different extents. There are also those who know they just have to wait to finally get their body, and there isn't too much more to talk about.

To say that because the camera is out, that people are disappointed... just doesn't seem right. I don't think actual usage of the Mark II really surprised anyone as to its features. I certainly wasn't.

gjl711 wrote in post #6896995
It did in indirect ways. Clearly they put a lot of effort, energy, and $$$ into video. All that engineering time could have been used to develop a new sensor system with much improved DR or making sure that the black spot was fixed before releasing the camera. Or they could have saved the $$$ reducing development cost so that the camera can be sold at a lower price.

I don't think they really put as much R&D and money into the video system as people think they did.

It's essentially just taking a stream of JPEGs of whatever the live view is recording, with a mono mic attached. Once live view was designed and ready to go, it was only a matter of time before they could adapt this to be used for a video system. It was probably relatively simple and easy to add the video feature.

mine came today (still need to pick it up from fedex) and there will be lots of magic going on tonight....

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #6897182
I wish they would have saved the video for the XXXD camera's, which would appear to be closer to the target market for video in SLR (the market being people who upgraded from their P&S to their first SLR, and were used to doing video in the P&S). Evidentally Nikon thought that this was where the market was at, because they opted to put video in their D90 (more consumer focused), than in their D3, D300, D700 which are more pro-focused.

It seems like Canon was trying to appeal to the wedding photography/photojourn​alism crowd with this camera. The video, to me, is just an effort to revolutionize the new DSLR industry. They probably felt that to do the video mode justice, it should be used on a better quality camera.

The only magic that isn't "in the air" is my inability to afford one...