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Canon 50D/5DII White Paper Published

 
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Dec 17, 2008 11:44 |  #1

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …205D%20Mark%20I​I%20WP.pdf (external link)




  
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Dec 17, 2008 11:47 |  #2

I guess we can now settle the question: "WTH was Canon Thinking...?" ;)


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Dec 17, 2008 12:43 |  #3

Excellent... I'm downloaded it and reading it now


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Dec 17, 2008 12:55 |  #4

On page 21 Canon says the following

The advanced single-plate CMOS sensor in the EOS 5D Mark II achieves the highest performance of any sensor in the Canon DSLR lineup. It shares many traits with the CMOS sensor found in the flagship EOS-1Ds Mark III, including its 36mm x 24mm (35mm format) size, approximately 21.1 effective megapixels with 6.4μm pixel pitch, a 4-channel data readout, and low-pass filter design. However, this second-generation sensor offers increased sensitivity and improved noise reduction circuitry that enables standard ISO’s ranging from 100 to 6400 and expanded ISO ranges from 50 to 25,600.

I know there was some speculation on if the 5D MKII sensor was the same one use in the 1DsMKIII. It looks like we now know that yes, it is, and it was improved upon. They are essentially calling the 1Ds MKIII 21MP sensor a 1st Generation design, and the 5D MKII sensor a 2nd Generation design with better high ISO output.


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Dec 17, 2008 13:21 |  #5

Another interesting comment on page 31

The AF systems on both the EOS 50D and EOS 5D Mark II are very similar to the systems on the models they replace, with the same improvements appearing in both new cameras. Among these are faster AF data processing made possible by the DIGIC 4 Image Processor

Up until now many people have stated that the AF function is offloaded on a dedicated AF processor (in discussion with the XXXD, XXD and 5D cameras). However Canon mentions that AF is improved due to the new Digic 4 chip. That would imply that the Digic chip has some level of involvement in the AF capabilities of the camera, which is contrary to the statement that AF processing is done by a dedicated chip. Therefore, even though the 50D and 5D MKII have the same AF system as their previous camera, the mere prescense of a faster Digic chip would logically give them faster AF capabilities over their predecessors, even though the systems are the same.


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Dec 17, 2008 13:26 |  #6

Another point, on page 35 Canon says 50D shutter is rated for 100,000 actuations and the 5D MKII is rated for 150,000 actuations. The 5D MKII shutter has been completely redesigned and uses a two motor system (one to cock the shutter, and one to move the mirror). I suspect that this new shutter will make it's way into the XXD lineup in the release of the 60D (just speculation on my part)


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Dec 17, 2008 21:05 |  #7

anyone else reading this?


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Dec 17, 2008 21:11 |  #8

I've been playing along and have referenced this in other threads...

Nice job of devining the pertinant points.


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Dec 17, 2008 21:15 |  #9

well I was beginning to think I was the only nerd that jumped on the white paper when it was released.


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Dec 17, 2008 21:22 |  #10

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #6899578 (external link)
well I was beginning to think I was the only nerd that jumped on the white paper when it was released.

Someone else referred to it as "Marketing Speak" and I guess to some extent it is (I don't think I'm quite that jaundiced...) but it's interesting to get a little bit of info based in "Here's what we were thinking when we did this..."

Knowing every little detail about all the bells and whistles isn't the be all and end all for me. I guess in that regard, I'm only a Junior Assistant Gearhead. ;)


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Dec 17, 2008 21:29 |  #11

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #6899631 (external link)
"Marketing Speak"

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it's both their technical writing/spec mixed with marketing speak (having now read it). But yeah, it's a canon ad for sure.... :lol:


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Dec 17, 2008 21:31 |  #12

jacobsen1 wrote in post #6899668 (external link)
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it's both their technical writing/spec mixed with marketing speak (having now read it). But yeah, it's a canon ad for sure.... :lol:

Been standing there long? :shock:


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Dec 17, 2008 21:34 |  #13

jacobsen1 wrote in post #6899668 (external link)
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it's both their technical writing/spec mixed with marketing speak (having now read it). But yeah, it's a canon ad for sure.... :lol:


Tell me about it - Page 57 " Essentially, we'll do and say anything to get you to buy our cameras"

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Dec 17, 2008 21:35 |  #14

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Been standing there long? :shock:

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but read the 24L II bit and tell me that's not advertising/marketing writing it... Made my 24L scared just reading it....


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Dec 17, 2008 21:38 |  #15

jacobsen1 wrote in post #6899714 (external link)
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but read the 24L II bit and tell me that's not advertising/marketing writing it... Make my 24L scared just reading it....

I'm in no way disagreeing with you... The production value of the pdf alone says "we want this to be as fishworthy a hook as possible."

I'm suprised they don't toss out something like this say one week before a new body is released instead of a week or two after.


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