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Is the 1D Mark III fixed?

 
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Dec 23, 2008 11:26 |  #31

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I think people have the right to be concerned about whether an expensive professional grade camera body with a poor history can be relied upon.

It's a fair point. I did a lot of research myself before purchasing one and it is a big purchase so I wouldn't condemn anybody for asking questions or being concerned.

My only issue is with people who have never used or owned the MKIII but act as experts on the matter. It's just hearsay unless you've encountered the problems yourself.

On the other hand, there are some MKIII users who have stated that it still doesn't live up to their expectations and that's fine - I can respect that and value their opinion.


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Dec 23, 2008 11:28 |  #32

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It's a fair point. I did a lot of research myself before purchasing one and it is a big purchase so I wouldn't condemn anybody for asking questions or being concerned.

My only issue is with people who have never used or owned the MKIII but act as experts on the matter. It's just hearsay unless you've encountered the problems yourself.

On the other hand, there are some MKIII users who have stated that it still doesn't live up to their expectations and that's fine - I can respect that and value their opinion.

I don't own a 1D III but there are plenty of photographers whos opinions I value enough that I can take their word as fact.


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Dec 23, 2008 12:06 |  #33
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I've never had a problem with mine, but i'm sure those complaining have.


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Dec 23, 2008 12:34 |  #34

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I don't own a 1D III but there are plenty of photographers whos opinions I value enough that I can take their word as fact.

Unfortunately many of those photographers are also either paid in large part by nikon contracts (*cough*RG*cough*) or were 1dmkii(n) owners who refused to grow up. As i have said, it's not the same camera at all, and treating it the same will only make things not work how you want them to. It's like using a good workstation after years of using a macbook. They both are computers and can be used to edit photos and video, but that's where the similarities end. If you don't take control of the server, it'll quickly slow down to nothing and waste it's potential.


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Dec 23, 2008 12:40 |  #35

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Unfortunately many of those photographers are also either paid in large part by nikon contracts (*cough*RG*cough*) or were 1dmkii(n) owners who refused to grow up. As i have said, it's not the same camera at all, and treating it the same will only make things not work how you want them to. It's like using a good workstation after years of using a macbook. They both are computers and can be used to edit photos and video, but that's where the similarities end. If you don't take control of the server, it'll quickly slow down to nothing and waste it's potential.

Sorry I don't buy that at all.

A camera of the same class shouldn't have to be re-learned. That entire concept is absurd. A 1D II/N owner should be able to upgrade his body to a 1D III and keep shooting away as if nothing were amiss. ESPECIALLY if they are a working professional who has years of experience behind them. The best cameras are the ones that work for you, not against you.

The 1D III is either over-engineered or under-engineered. Pick one.


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Dec 23, 2008 12:46 |  #36

basroil wrote in post #6933499 (external link)
or were 1dmkii(n) owners who refused to grow up. As i have said, it's not the same camera at all, and treating it the same will only make things not work how you want them to.

Will you please stop with this dribble? I have owned 4 of these cameras...and returned them all. They have a flaw in each and every one. Send me yours and I'll prove you have a problem as well.

It aint that hard to figure out the camera....read, learn & apply the techniques and see the results.

For goodness sake it isn't brain surgery. I can drive a car, fly a plane, captain a boat, rebuild Triumphs, learn my computers and run a company....but I can't grow up and learn how to use a camera body?

Do you have any idea how silly your comment really sounds?


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Dec 23, 2008 12:48 |  #37

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The 1D III is either over-engineered or under-engineered. Pick one.

Can i go off the menu and pick "poorly engineered"? :D


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Dec 23, 2008 13:48 |  #38

Well said Randy.... well said. I have stayed out of the MKIII debate for the most part. I have had mine for about eight months. It's a love/hate thing. Sometimes it's amazing... other times the images look worse than stuff I got with my 10d. I will say for non-sporting events (ie portraits, weddings, etc) it is stunning. Of course I use mine mostly for sports, and I'm happy with it probably 70 percent of the time. It misses far more shots than it should. (my opinion).

If I had $4,000 to spend (which I don't) knowing everything that I know about the camera, I probably would not buy another. There really should be no issues with a body that costs that much.


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Dec 23, 2008 13:51 |  #39

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If I had $4,000 to spend (which I don't) knowing everything that I know about the camera, I probably would not buy another. There really should be no issues with a body that costs that much.

True - at this stage of the game (with the MarkIV on the horizon), I probably wouldn't spend $4,000 either. But then again, I got mine significantly cheaper so I ain't complaining :)


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Dec 23, 2008 13:55 |  #40

Sorry for popping like that folks. But my goodness......

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, etc etc etc :)


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Dec 23, 2008 14:02 |  #41

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True - at this stage of the game (with the MarkIV on the horizon), I probably wouldn't spend $4,000 either. But then again, I got mine significantly cheaper so I ain't complaining :)

I'm sure I got mine signficantly less than everyone.... see link
https://photography-on-the.net …ghlight=interes​ting+twist

And no I am not complaing at all either. I will be a Canon supporter to the end. But when someone says the issues with the camera are the user, not the body... that's when I differ.


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Dec 23, 2008 15:21 |  #42

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I think the satisfied owners just don't push the camera the way it's supposed to be pushed.

What about the professionals using this camera? Are they pushing the camera hard enough, or are they just not able to see the problem?

I'm amazed that whenever this question comes up, it's the same handful of people that complain about this issue, and some of these people are on multiple online forums. I think this makes it look like more of a problem than it really is.


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Dec 23, 2008 17:15 |  #43

...and the same collection of people rise up and defend it....on multiple forums ;)


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Dec 23, 2008 18:30 |  #44

here is my answer to this very simple yet loaded question:

no, i do not think that the mkIII is fixed completely but, and that is a big but, i still think that even with the less than perfect AF (in my case, my AF was as good as my old mkIIn), it is still the best camera Canon has ever created in my opinion. from IQ to UI, everything about this camera is just right. i recently went over my hard drives and i can easily and honestly say that the best images i have are from the 1DmkIII. i also recently got a 5DmarkII and it took me whole of 10 minutes to be reminded why the 1DmkIII is the most versatile camera i have ever used. i used mine for everything from studio to landscapes to birds in flight and again, it is hard not to be in love with the camera.

is it perfect? no it is not. i still miss quite a few shots but for me (read it again, i said for me) i will gladly take 70% hit rate instead of 80% if it means having a camera that can do everything and still blow you away everytime you use it.




  
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Dec 23, 2008 19:18 |  #45
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GBRandy wrote in post #6933549 (external link)
Will you please stop with this dribble? I have owned 4 of these cameras...and returned them all. They have a flaw in each and every one. Send me yours and I'll prove you have a problem as well.

It aint that hard to figure out the camera....read, learn & apply the techniques and see the results.

For goodness sake it isn't brain surgery. I can drive a car, fly a plane, captain a boat, rebuild Triumphs, learn my computers and run a company....but I can't grow up and learn how to use a camera body?

Do you have any idea how silly your comment really sounds?


Man you have bad luck, i got a phenomenally working one on the first try, i'm not saying you're wrong, i just think it sucks you went through 4, and u never found a working camera, that's just poor quality control on canon's part, merry christmas to you too sir!


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