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Dec 18, 2008 19:46 |  #1

I've got a couple of reflections in the backboard I need to fix. Anyone got any other thoughts?

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Dec 18, 2008 21:13 |  #2

A good article on Sports Shooter for remote
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Dec 18, 2008 22:04 |  #3

Besides adding the gobo for the reflections I would suggest adjusting it so it does not appear to lean to the right and if you shot with the 16-35 maybe zoom just a bit tighter to where the top of the frame was at mid court. I personally find my 16-35 is sharpest between 22-28.

It is hard to tell from this image, but looks like your focus might be more on the front of the rim than the player. I have had good luck having someone hold up a broom about where that kids head is at and using that to set the focus.

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Dec 19, 2008 08:10 as a reply to  @ Big K's post |  #4

That must be one well lit gym. Are you bouncing flash or anything? What is your setup and settings with the remote camera?

I think that getting the camera closer to the glass would eliminate the reflections.

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Dec 19, 2008 14:40 |  #5

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll crop tighter. I used a friend to focus on, at 6 feet 9 inches he makes a good target! I did use the 16-35 at 16mm I'll tighten up the zoom.

The gym is very well lit. I used my 1DmkIIn, ISO 3200, 1/500 sec, f/4.0 and the histogram was pushing the right side. WB was for flourescent bulbs. The gym is very well lit and I didn't use any flash.

I found some Black Wrap and will build me a gobo before Monday night's game.

I'll double check the position of the camera. I hadn't noticed the leaning as much till it was mentioned.

Thanks for the comments. I'll try and do better Monday.

I'd like to get closer to the glass. I guess I'll have to order a magic arm. I'll post pictures of my set up after Monday


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Dec 19, 2008 23:14 |  #6

JBillings wrote in post #6910225 (external link)
Thanks for the comments. I'll try and do better Monday.

You did great for your first outing. Keep up the excellent work.

One suggestion for your gobo, make it so there is a little slack in it when you attach it to the camera and the glass. I learned the hard way after the first dunk of the game shook the camera enough that it tore the gobo loose from the backboard.

Also, regarding the comment about getting closer to the glass eliminating the reflections that will most likely not fix it. Again, I learned this from experience because I thought the same thing. The gobo is the only solution that is sure to work. Be sure to check and see if there are any reflections coming from the top as well. You might need to gobo both above and below.

Again, nice work and best of luck at your next game.


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Dec 20, 2008 00:21 |  #7

I like. Very nice indeed.


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Dec 20, 2008 08:05 |  #8

Here's a published example of a remote camera shot from last night by James Nielsen for the Houston Chronicle. Note that the camera is somewhat lower than what you have JBillings, but your shots are gonna rival this one soon:
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(4) Basket rim in upper right is cropped perfectly

If Miller had only jumped to get his feet in the picture (but that would've been a foul then), the picture might've been better.


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Dec 20, 2008 13:46 |  #9

Big K wrote in post #6912889 (external link)
You did great for your first outing. Keep up the excellent work.

One suggestion for your gobo, make it so there is a little slack in it when you attach it to the camera and the glass. I learned the hard way after the first dunk of the game shook the camera enough that it tore the gobo loose from the backboard.

Also, regarding the comment about getting closer to the glass eliminating the reflections that will most likely not fix it. Again, I learned this from experience because I thought the same thing. The gobo is the only solution that is sure to work. Be sure to check and see if there are any reflections coming from the top as well. You might need to gobo both above and below.

Again, nice work and best of luck at your next game.

Thanks! I wouldn't have thought about the gobo above and in looking at the stuff I shot I see a reflection in the upper left corner from some signage. Looks like I'll have make one there too.

I appreciate all the helpful comments. Now just keep our finger's crossed and see if I've learned anything by Monday night.


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Dec 20, 2008 18:40 as a reply to  @ JBillings's post |  #10

Do you folks have any suggestions on how you might modify the position of camera and focus/aim point for a HS slam dunk competition.

Our local high school has an 8 team tournament in January and the festivities include a 3 point, free throw, sharp shooter and slam dunk competitions. I'm thinking of giving the 'through the glass' photography a try for the dunks.

Would the higher position of JB be better than the referenced position in the photo of Yao Ming in a situation you knew was going to be all dunks?


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Dec 20, 2008 18:42 |  #11

Zivnuska wrote in post #6917022 (external link)
Do you folks have any suggestions on how you might modify the position of camera and focus/aim point for a HS slam dunk competition.

Our local high school has an 8 team tournament in January and the festivities include a 3 point, free throw, sharp shooter and slam dunk competitions. I'm thinking of giving the 'through the glass' photography a try for the dunks.

Would the higher position of JB be better than the referenced position in the photo of Yao Ming in a situation you knew was going to be all dunks.

For a slam dunk contest? Magic Arm so the camera is above the backboard with a wide enough lens to cover from the rim bracket out to the top of the key.


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Dec 20, 2008 20:39 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #12

Our dunkers can barely get the ball over the rim, so I wouldn't think you would need to go too high:

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