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Dec 25, 2008 20:18 |  #1

I am wanting to get a lens for street photography and am leaning towards this focal length. I have heard a lot of rave reviews about the 17-55mm IS lens, but I have also heard of dust issues etc. I am of the mindset that I should get the best product, take care of it, and utilize it for a very long time. Because of this thinking, I am leaning towards building my kit around very well built lenses such as EX and the L series. I like the versatility of the 17-55, but I also long for the build quality of the 16-35mm. Is the 17-55 lens going to last me, or should I go the other route. Note that I am talking about the 16-35mm Mark I version, since I use crop and figure it would do just fine on that. Recommendations and experiences appreciated. Thanks.


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Dec 25, 2008 20:26 |  #2

Well, I love my 16-35 MkI... it is sharp and fast, great build and a true pleasure to use, I have not used the 17-55, as I am using 1D bodies. I have heard great things about the optics in that lens, but no so hot reviews regarding build quality, and I think if I had to choose one (provided both could work on my 1D's) I would still take the 16-35. I feel it is a better long term investment, because of build quality and the fact that you could use it on non-EFS compatible bodies... my 2 cents.


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Dec 25, 2008 20:57 as a reply to  @ Zander Albertson's post |  #3

I've owned the 17-40L, 17-55 EFS, and 16-35L Mk I all in that order.

Optically the 17-55, is the superior all around lens on EFS but not by much. My main gripe with the 16-35 Mk1 is that it can at times over expose so you have to know the lens very well for when that may happen and adjust exposure compensation.

That aside I really prefer the 16-35L and the build is far, far superior. Plus even if you don't plan to buy a FF today but you may down the road and this would prevent you from having to sell the same focal length should you upgrade one day.

I purchased my mk 1 version somewhat new just recently as a Canon factory refurb. from Adorama. My sole reason for the mk 1 over the mk2 is the 77mm front filter threads. If you aren't committed to a slew of 77mm filters I say spring for the newer mk2 version.


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Dec 25, 2008 22:57 |  #4

MrChad wrote in post #6945185 (external link)
I've owned the 17-40L, 17-55 EFS, and 16-35L Mk I all in that order.

Optically the 17-55, is the superior all around lens on EFS but not by much. My main gripe with the 16-35 Mk1 is that it can at times over expose so you have to know the lens very well for when that may happen and adjust exposure compensation.

That aside I really prefer the 16-35L and the build is far, far superior. Plus even if you don't plan to buy a FF today but you may down the road and this would prevent you from having to sell the same focal length should you upgrade one day.

I purchased my mk 1 version somewhat new just recently as a Canon factory refurb. from Adorama. My sole reason for the mk 1 over the mk2 is the 77mm front filter threads. If you aren't committed to a slew of 77mm filters I say spring for the newer mk2 version.

What a coincidence, I had all of them in the same order as well :lol:

Since you are using a crop body, I would suggest the 17-55. To me, the build quality between the 16-35L and 17-55 is not a big enough issue for me to not consider using the other.

If the 17-55 worked on a 1.3x crop, I would sell my 16-35L in a heartbeat to get it back.

Don't get me wrong, though, because I love my 16-35L. It is my most used lens. I just think you would benefit from using the 17-55 for street photography because of the IS and extra 20mm on the long end; you don't lose very much with only 1mm on the wide end.

Even if you do move to FF, 17-55's tend to hold their value pretty well, and you shouldn't have a problem reselling it because of it's awesome reputation. Good luck with whatever you choose, you will be happy with any of them. :D

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Dec 26, 2008 08:06 as a reply to  @ khnordeen's post |  #5

Thanks for the responses. It is kind of a tough decision. I still feel like the 17-55 is probably the more versatile lens, so I may end up going with that route. I also think that the extra reach could come in handy at times. Is the Mark II version a significant upgrade from the original for a crop body?


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Dec 26, 2008 08:48 |  #6

17-66 unless you want to go FF or 1.3x sometime!


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Dec 26, 2008 09:06 |  #7

I've never shot with a 16-35, so cannot comment on it. But since you're considering the 17-55, I cannot sing anything but its praises. It was the best zoom lens that I had the pleasure of owning. Sharp at 2.8 at all focal lengths and you get the added bonus of IS and 20mm reach


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Dec 26, 2008 09:18 as a reply to  @ Mark's post |  #8

i picked up the 17-55 recently. i was between that and the 24-70 f/2.8. granted u didnt mention that one, but i wanted the IS for indoor and low light stuff. otherwise i would have grabbed the 24-70. a few people mentioned the focal lenght on the crop body. i agree, the extra 20 or so mm is great.

i also have a 40D and the combo is great. i dont plan to go FF for a few years so it wasnt an issue. the only time i can see ever getting rid of this lens is when i go FF, or if a mk II of the 24-70 comes out with IS. even if i get a 1.3 crop, id keep the 17-55 ( i belive the EF-S still mounts on them).

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Dec 26, 2008 12:03 as a reply to  @ cyruz's post |  #9

Thanks for the pics and advice. I take really good care of my equipment so maybe I am worrying a little bit too much about build quality. Does this lens zoom creep? My 28-135mm did this and it annoyed the hell out of me.


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Dec 26, 2008 19:49 |  #10

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Thanks for the pics and advice. I take really good care of my equipment so maybe I am worrying a little bit too much about build quality. Does this lens zoom creep? My 28-135mm did this and it annoyed the hell out of me.

My 17-55mm did develop zoom creep. When new it was stiff around the 28mm mark but after a lot of use the lens started to get pretty loose on the zoom ring.

That's one of the reasons I really like the 17-40mm and 16-35mm lenses, they have absolutely no creep because they effectively never change length over use.

If long term use for years is the main goal of the lens I would go for one of the two L's, no matter what Eos body you use they will likely last you forever with little reason to look for a new model even if one should be introduced.


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Dec 26, 2008 19:52 |  #11

if you dont care about the build quality as much go with the 17-55.. its not the best build quality but it is some of the best optics...


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Dec 26, 2008 21:07 |  #12

17-55 no contest. I do have a 16-35 L that gets no use since I bought the 17-55 when it first came out. Never had any problems with it. l Use it for most of my shooting. It has held up well, just as good as when I first got it. I got the lens shade for it also.


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Dec 26, 2008 21:09 |  #13

MrChad wrote in post #6949578 (external link)
My 17-55mm did develop zoom creep. When new it was stiff around the 28mm mark but after a lot of use the lens started to get pretty loose on the zoom ring.

That's one of the reasons I really like the 17-40mm and 16-35mm lenses, they have absolutely no creep because they effectively never change length over use.

If long term use for years is the main goal of the lens I would go for one of the two L's, no matter what Eos body you use they will likely last you forever with little reason to look for a new model even if one should be introduced.

Mine hasn't and I have been using it a lot. No lens creep. You are right, if you really are going to step up to a FF you might want to get the 16-35, but I believe the 17-55 is superior.


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Dec 26, 2008 22:02 |  #14

I have both lenses.

For the 1.6 crop, the 17-55 is the better lens.


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Dec 26, 2008 23:24 |  #15

I have owned both, first 17-55 on a cropper and now 16-35 on 5D. all things considered, I would keep 17-55 on a cropper. yes the 16-35 has slightly better color out of the camera. its is also better built, but I never had a problem with my 17-55


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