Impact umbrellas

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …Flash_Umbrella_​Mount.html

Just wondering what you guys think of these umbrellas, I am just going to be using it to take pics of my son, and my new baby coming next week. Any other options would be appreciated.
Going to be used with 580 exII's

Thanks, Dave

http://cgi.ebay.com …A:US:11&Item=36​0092446087

Heres another one on ebay. And it says free shipping

Have them love them, use them both in my studio and on location.
I use one 580 ex11 and two 430 ex's.

The stands are great, the umbrellas not so good. I already had to repair mines with glue on the edges, they rip easily.

I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave

I have that same kit. the Impact one. First thing I did was swap out the shoe. It really is horrible. I swapped them out for ->THESE<-.

bmynbr wrote in post #6958541
I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave

I'm not sure you can easily accomplish this using shoe mount flash units into umbrellas. The construction of the 'normal' attachment unit just doesn't allow it. Even most strobes do not fire to the exact center of the umbrella.

Not sure what you mean by the umbrella and flash not adjusting at the same time. If they are talking about angle adjustments then they probably have it assembled wrong. If they are talking about relative to the umbrella I wouldn't want them adjusting together. Adjust the umbrella so it is being filled by the flash by moving the umbrella closer or further away from the flash head.

(And if you could see me talking with my hands you would know exactly what I just said!)

rklepper wrote in post #6958799
I have that same kit. the Impact one. First thing I did was swap out the shoe. It really is horrible. I swapped them out for ->THESE<-.

I swapped mine out for ->THESE<-

Titus213 wrote in post #6958881
I swapped mine out for ->THESE<-

I did as well. This kit is very good for the money, im awaiting my second 430ex speedlight to use both stands/umbrellas. But using just one, im very pleased.

bmynbr wrote in post #6958541
I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave

I cant think of ANY umbrellas with the light in the center. It is just not possable. The support rod is in the center, how are you going to get the light there?

Sorry, I am not saying the light in the center, I just mean the light fires at the center. Some people said the flash only lights the top 1/3 instead of the middle. Look at the 4 minute mark of this vid to understand what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=lKAD7leNOVY

Thanks for the answers, I think I am going to get them. Any thought on the ebay ones, even though you can not shoot through them, they are half the price.
Dave

The angle has to do with the mount, not the umbrella. Your question was about the umbrella. I would guess the angle is built in to the mount. I have cheap $7 mounts and they have the angle built in. I would guess more expensive ones would as well.

I've got impact stands which are excellent for $19 a piece. Very sturdy for my vivitar flashes. And I just got impact umbrellas while they seem flimsy I'm sure for my hobbiest shooting they will be more then suficient. Westcott makes $26 convertible brollies which are prolly much nicer but for a beginner impact brand gear is perfect. Oh I also have impact umbrella hotshoe flash brackets and they're pretty darn nice for their price.