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Dec 28, 2008 14:18 |  #1

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …Flash_Umbrella_​Mount.html (external link)

Just wondering what you guys think of these umbrellas, I am just going to be using it to take pics of my son, and my new baby coming next week. Any other options would be appreciated.
Going to be used with 580 exII's

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Dec 28, 2008 14:24 |  #2

http://cgi.ebay.com …A:US:11&Item=36​0092446087 (external link)

Heres another one on ebay. And it says free shipping


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Dec 28, 2008 14:31 |  #3

Have them love them, use them both in my studio and on location.
I use one 580 ex11 and two 430 ex's.


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Dec 28, 2008 14:38 |  #4

The stands are great, the umbrellas not so good. I already had to repair mines with glue on the edges, they rip easily.




  
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Dec 28, 2008 14:54 |  #5

I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave


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Dec 28, 2008 15:55 |  #6

I have that same kit. the Impact one. First thing I did was swap out the shoe. It really is horrible. I swapped them out for ->THESE (external link)<-.


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Dec 28, 2008 16:08 |  #7

bmynbr wrote in post #6958541 (external link)
I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave

I'm not sure you can easily accomplish this using shoe mount flash units into umbrellas. The construction of the 'normal' attachment unit just doesn't allow it. Even most strobes do not fire to the exact center of the umbrella.

Not sure what you mean by the umbrella and flash not adjusting at the same time. If they are talking about angle adjustments then they probably have it assembled wrong. If they are talking about relative to the umbrella I wouldn't want them adjusting together. Adjust the umbrella so it is being filled by the flash by moving the umbrella closer or further away from the flash head.

(And if you could see me talking with my hands you would know exactly what I just said!)


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Dec 28, 2008 16:10 |  #8

rklepper wrote in post #6958799 (external link)
I have that same kit. the Impact one. First thing I did was swap out the shoe. It really is horrible. I swapped them out for ->THESE (external link)<-.

I swapped mine out for ->THESE (external link)<-:lol:


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Dec 28, 2008 17:02 |  #9

Titus213 wrote in post #6958881 (external link)
I swapped mine out for ->THESE (external link)<-:lol:

I did as well. This kit is very good for the money, im awaiting my second 430ex speedlight to use both stands/umbrellas. But using just one, im very pleased.


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Dec 28, 2008 17:07 |  #10

bmynbr wrote in post #6958541 (external link)
I was just reading reviews, and people said that the flash doesn't fire to the center of the umbrella, and the umbrella and flash don't adjust at the same time.
Is this true?
Dave


I cant think of ANY umbrellas with the light in the center. It is just not possable. The support rod is in the center, how are you going to get the light there?


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Dec 28, 2008 19:17 |  #11

Sorry, I am not saying the light in the center, I just mean the light fires at the center. Some people said the flash only lights the top 1/3 instead of the middle. Look at the 4 minute mark of this vid to understand what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=lKAD7leNOVY (external link)

Thanks for the answers, I think I am going to get them. Any thought on the ebay ones, even though you can not shoot through them, they are half the price.
Dave


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Dec 29, 2008 08:33 |  #12

The angle has to do with the mount, not the umbrella. Your question was about the umbrella. I would guess the angle is built in to the mount. I have cheap $7 mounts and they have the angle built in. I would guess more expensive ones would as well.


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Dec 29, 2008 10:26 |  #13

I've got impact stands which are excellent for $19 a piece. Very sturdy for my vivitar flashes. And I just got impact umbrellas while they seem flimsy I'm sure for my hobbiest shooting they will be more then suficient. Westcott makes $26 convertible brollies which are prolly much nicer but for a beginner impact brand gear is perfect. Oh I also have impact umbrella hotshoe flash brackets and they're pretty darn nice for their price.


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