Elinchrom modifiers for Genesis lights

I know that the Elinchrom accessories physically work with the Genesis lights, but can the lights/stands/mounts/e​tc handle them? I am specifically looking at the 53" octa and the 39" deep octa. Is it stupid to spend more money on modifiers than lights or does it work out well similar to buying L glass for a rebel body? Does anyone out there use these modifiers on their Genesis lights?

One of the main reasons I decided on the Genesis lights over the AB's is being able to bring my modifiers with me if I decide to upgrade to higher quality lights. It makes sense to me to buy nice modifiers to bring with in the first place.

With heavier accessories (Like the 53" Oct) and using lights like the Genesis and DL's, it's sometimes better to attach the Speedring directly to a heavy duty swivel like the Bogen 026/2905 and than attach the swivel to a light stand.

The light itself would than basically hang from the speedring rather than the other way around.

I just got my 39" Deepthroat, but I don't recall if it has a threaded hole or not to do this.

Others can chime in...

-Mario

EDIT: Forgot part one.
I don't think it's silly that a modifier may cost more.
The Deepthroat is around $275 and that is about the cost of a 200ws light.

-Mario

sjlund wrote in post #6989072
I know that the Elinchrom accessories physically work with the Genesis lights, but can the lights/stands/mounts/e​tc handle them? I am specifically looking at the 53" octa and the 39" deep octa. Is it stupid to spend more money on modifiers than lights or does it work out well similar to buying L glass for a rebel body? Does anyone out there use these modifiers on their Genesis lights?

One of the main reasons I decided on the Genesis lights over the AB's is being able to bring my modifiers with me if I decide to upgrade to higher quality lights. It makes sense to me to buy nice modifiers to bring with in the first place.

A rebel image quality would shine with L glass :P, the resolving power of a L will give you the most of your Rebel's sensor , also bodies come and go but glass stays with you.

The very same could be said about modifiers but as far as I know the D-lites and the Genesis don't quite support well the weight of heavy modifiers.

eduardofrances wrote in post #6989205
The very same could be said about modifiers but as far as I know the D-lites and the Genesis don't quite support well the weight of heavy modifiers.

I heard the same, that's why it had been sugested by users at the time to mount it as I mentioned above...

-Mario

Correct. The Elinchrom D-Lites and the Calumet Genesis strobes have a swivel mount that weakens easily and can easily be overtightened, to the point of breaking the handle off the hardware.

Unfortunately, when it comes to using the Elinchrom modifiers you can't just substitute the Photofelx speed ring that Mario mentioned. With non-Elinchrom modifiers you can use the Photoflex ring with the threaded holes and can be mounted right to the light stand or umbrella adapter, thus taking all the weight off the strobe and its swivel mount.

I wasn't implying to use the Photoflex Speedring.

Just couldn't remember if the Elinchrom Speedring had a mounting hole...

-Mario

TMR Design wrote in post #6989258
Correct. The Elinchrom D-Lites and the Calumet Genesis strobes have a swivel mount that weakens easily and can easily be overtightened, to the point of breaking the handle off the hardware.

Unfortunately, when it comes to using the Elinchrom modifiers you can't just substitute the Photofelx speed ring that Mario mentioned. With non-Elinchrom modifiers you can use the Photoflex ring with the threaded holes and can be mounted right tot he light stand or umbrella adapter, thus taking all the weight off the strobe and its swivel mount.

m3rdpwr wrote in post #6989266
I wasn't implying to use the Photoflex Speedring.

Just couldn't remember if the Elinchrom Speedring had a mounting hole...

-Mario

Nope. The Elinchrom Speed Ring does not have that provision. I thought you already knew that so I assumed you were talking about the Photoflex ring. I'm not even sure who else makes speed rings with the threaded mounting holes.

TMR Design wrote in post #6989547
Nope. The Elinchrom Speed Ring does not have that provision. I thought you already knew that so I assumed you were talking about the Photoflex ring. I'm not even sure who else makes speed rings with the threaded mounting holes.

Well than, I'm glad I have the BX's than...

-Mario

m3rdpwr wrote in post #6989673
Well than, I'm glad I have the BX's than...

-Mario

That's one reason to like the BX's. There are many.

The 400BX and 53" Octa are perfect together. The swivel mount on the BX is the same as the RX and it's heavy duty and very different from the D-Lite's.

So it seems like the swivel mount is the weak link that makes using the heavy duty modifiers difficult. I wonder if it's possible to take a heavy swivel such as this and fasten it to the light somehow taking the stock swivel out of the equation.

Edit:

I wonder if you could epoxy the stock swivel at 90 degrees (not slipping now you sucker!) and then use a piece of 5/8" steel rod to couple the Photoflex swivel and the stock swivel together....

The issue with the D-Lites is that they have no aluminium chassis like the higher end units, so it's not just the swivel mount that is the weak link. If you replace the swivel mount, it will just be the plastic casing that will crack under pressure. That said, I used my 53" Octa with my D-Lites for several months and never broke them. But I sure appreciate the build of the RX strobes and the Ranger heads, compared to the D-Lites!

TMR Design wrote in post #6989694
That's one reason to like the BX's. There are many.

Touche'!