STICKY:  5D2 owners - what do you use to edit movies?

Here's the link of how to convert the 5D video to Pinnacle Studio 12, it's kind of complicate but works for me.
http://forums.dpreview​.com …=30534667&q=pin​nacle&qf=m
-capt3450

LM64 wrote in post #7706179
I use Pinnacle Studio 12 to capture, edit and burn videos from my standard camcorder.
Could someone explain how to convert or transfer the 5D HD videos to Pinnacle Studio? Thanks.

Thanks for sending the link, I will try this workflow.
I have two more questions:
-I have the Studio 12 basic version, is it OK for this workflow or the Ultimate version is necessary?
-someone mentioned the Cineform intermediate codec. Would this be an easier procedure?
Thanks again.

capt3450 wrote in post #7708433
Here's the link of how to convert the 5D video to Pinnacle Studio 12, it's kind of complicate but works for me.
http://forums.dpreview​.com …=30534667&q=pin​nacle&qf=m
-capt3450

I tried and it works,thanks.

LM64 wrote in post #7711440
Thanks for sending the link, I will try this workflow.
I have two more questions:
-I have the Studio 12 basic version, is it OK for this workflow or the Ultimate version is necessary?
-someone mentioned the Cineform intermediate codec. Would this be an easier procedure?
Thanks again.

Glad it all worked out for you..waiting to see your PP video
-capt3450

I've used Vegas, Premiere, and Pinnacle Studio (which I really liked, so good choice); but more recently I bought a Mac and honestly I love iMovie. It is so easy and cuts down on the amount of time I spend working on the video (I used to spend days in Vegas). I created a 4 minute wedding video last night in about 2 hours.

Just got Sony Vegas Pro 8, really is very good. Makes much more sense than Premiere or FCP in my opinion, and works in 32-bit

I use Speed Edit by Newtek.

I am currently in film school, and everything we do through class is pushed really heavily on the Mac side with Final Cut Pro. I however have always been a PC guy. For my personal stuff I use Premiere Pro CS4. Final Cut Pro and Premiere Pro are essentially the same program. Infact, I can load my saved project files from Final Cut into Premiere because they are so similar (and adobe is all about making their stuff compatible with everything). Don't know if it works the other way around.

There are a few things that I like about Premiere over Final Cut, I can dump footage and edit other clips at the same time as well as make direct linkage of footage from premiere to after effects. (so I cut a clip up in premiere and then link it to after effects for special effects and it auto changes in premiere without having to re-import it).

Also I saw somewhere on page 1 someone was talking about a PC chugging on video play back. This is quite normal, you have to render the video for smooth playback. this can be a daunting task for any system PC or Mac, it all depends on your processor. I recommend quad-core and up for any video processing. Dual-core is pushing it. its really about how much time you have to get it done.

if you have any specific questions about editing hit me up with a PM I'd be glad to help!

Convert to 24p via Cineform Neoscene (aside from converting to 24p, Neoscene makes all clips play smooth as can be while editing).
Edit in Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9.
Render as 1080p to mp4.

I have a request to 5D mkII owners...
Could someone please send me a video file straight out of the camera? Doesn't matter what is on it as long as it is moving image. I suggest to send the file to me trough www.yousendit.com. It is possible there to send a max file of 100 mb for free. (or another way not known to me...)

I would like to try out working with a video file before buying a 5D mkII.

Thanks in advance!

Jan

jvdwal2000(at)gmail.co​m (replace the (at) with @)

Leeuwarden wrote in post #7936721
I have a request to 5D mkII owners...
Could someone please send me a video file straight out of the camera? Doesn't matter what is on it as long as it is moving image. I suggest to send the file to me trough www.yousendit.com. It is possible there to send a max file of 100 mb for free. (or another way not known to me...)

I would like to try out working with a video file before buying a 5D mkII.

Thanks in advance!

Jan

jvdwal2000(at)gmail.co​m (replace the (at) with @)

Jan, I've included a link to two short video files, straight from the camera.
Nothing special, just short clips at full camera 1920x1080 resolution.
The first was shot with a 500 f4 plus 2x TC and is around 75mb.
The second was shot with a 500 f4 plus 1.4 TC and is around 63mb.

Have a play around with them.

http://www.mediafire.c​om/?zjyot1megkk
http://www.mediafire.c​om/?yjdmn1zdmmn

Thanks Cameron!

Looking at your clips I guess it won't be long before the 5DmkII arrives!

(just bought a 300 2.8 for my 1DmkIII, after seeing your clips I probably want a 500 too )

Thanks again!

Jan

Doesn't Pinnacle Studio support native HDV and AVCHD editing from the version 11? At least that's what I've read (I don't own the software myself), so shouldn't one be able to open/import the 5D video clips just like that? I'm definitely not an expert on the subject, but I've understood that something that supports AVHCD, should support H264 as well.

Perhaps there's just something I'm missing.

perfarny wrote in post #7936049
Convert to 24p via Cineform Neoscene (aside from converting to 24p, Neoscene makes all clips play smooth as can be while editing).
Edit in Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9.
Render as 1080p to mp4.

I've noticed that many 5DII users recommend Neoscene, on the PC side anyway.

Right now I really have no way to do anything with my 5DII movies. They barely playback on my computer and I have no editing software. It also seems that even if I got something as good as Premiere Pro I would still have trouble editing and transcoding my movies.

What if any benefit would Neoscene be to me? Isn't it essentially a transcoder? So if I have clips that don't need editing can I transcode them to say a 720p clip and upload them to Vimeo?

What is your workflow with Neoscene when you need to edit? I've read about using Neoscene to convert the native 5DII movies to something else that will play back smoothly and then editing those proxy files. I'm not sure I quite understand this. Do you arrange the proxy files and edit them like you want with the ability to watch the final cut smoothly then render referencing the original files? If this is the case then are your proxy files disposable (assuming you would never edit again with them) as you still have the original mov files.

One last thing, I read on Cinema5D forums I think, that Neoscene would not convert 5DII movies to 24p. You've gotten it to work?

Thanks. Any help is appreciated.

For the video editing neophyte on the PC, what is the easiest and least expensive route to editing my 5D Mark II movies.

I'm not afraid to learn and get deep into the video editing process but I know very little and have no software and I can't do a darn thing with my movies. I've had my 5DII a week and already shot about 1.5 hours of my mother and aunt reminiscing about their childhood and growing up. Really great footage BTW, although the audio's gonna stink, and I want to edit it together well with transitions and some music, etc etc but I don't know where to begin.

I eventually, as money permits, would like to get an external audio recorder like the Zoom h4n and I know that adds another layer of complexity.

I just cannot see my self getting Premiere Pro or Final Cut Pro if I had a Mac right now. Eventually I think I would probably get to one or the other of those but right now it's just not gonna happen. So what am I left with? Is Vegas or Premiere Elements gonna cut it. I'm aware of Cineform Neoscene. Would combining that with Premiere Elements get me started?

Anyway any advice would be appreciated.