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Jan 04, 2009 19:16 |  #1

I'm still doing testing on my new Mk II, but I took my new 5D with me for holiday photos. The photo attached was taken at all the default settings, saturation included. No post processing at all on this image.

Doesn't the red sweater look WAY over-saturated to you? I cannot reproduce such oversaturation in my previously published test.

Any ideas?


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Jan 04, 2009 19:20 |  #2

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Looks pretty saturated to me. I think I'd be inclined to back it down a little. Got some interesting looking moire pattern going on in that shirt there in the middle too !

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Jan 04, 2009 19:23 |  #3

It's on scale (a few patches aside), so it's not horribly over-saturated. Whether it is a good rendition of the scene is another matter.




  
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Jan 04, 2009 19:25 |  #4

I think the red is way over saturated


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Jan 04, 2009 19:27 as a reply to  @ george m w's post |  #5

The moire pattern is the reduction in image size, it's not there at 100% mag. You're very observant.

I agree that the red sweater looks oversaturated. Could it be that this particular sweater is of a particular weave or chemical composition that makes it saturate more than other materials?


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Jan 04, 2009 19:28 |  #6

too much red

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Jan 04, 2009 19:28 |  #7

Huh?

The red sweater on the left doesn't just GLARE at you?

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It's on scale (a few patches aside), so it's not horribly over-saturated. Whether it is a good rendition of the scene is another matter.


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Jan 04, 2009 19:32 |  #8

There's the pop from the 5d for you.

Yes it definitely just pops out at me.


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Jan 04, 2009 19:34 |  #9

I guess in my mind this is one of those situations where PP is what makes the diff when it's all done. The camera may ( or may not ) have recorded the scene exactly as it was....but if we were looking at the final output ( with heads on them folks ! ) then the red would prove to be very distracting. Proper app of good PP techniques could save the day by toning it down to a dull roar.

Kinda like when we were kids and it was school photo day, they had specific recomendations as to what we were supposed to wear.

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Jan 04, 2009 19:35 |  #10

BestVisuals wrote in post #7004497 (external link)
I'm still doing testing on my new Mk II, but I took my new 5D with me for holiday photos. The photo attached was taken at all the default settings, saturation included. No post processing at all on this image.

Doesn't the red sweater look WAY over-saturated to you? I cannot reproduce such oversaturation in my previously published test.

Any ideas?

my 5d classic would blow reds quite often and also add red to skin tones.

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Jan 04, 2009 19:37 |  #11

Hey at least Canon can record RED ! I have an old Minolta Dimage 7 that I used for a couple of years. No matter how many photos I snapped of my red motorcycle....they always came out orange ! That dang thing could not give a good red if it's little digital life depended on it....

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Jan 04, 2009 19:41 as a reply to  @ george m w's post |  #12

I have yet to have a good electronic/photographi​c explanation of why reds oversaturate so much.

I idid professional video at the same time as pro photography and I can tell you that even in the video world, if one color is going to oversaturate it's going to be red. Not green. Not blue. Red.


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Jan 04, 2009 19:42 |  #13

Well, that's what I want to know (and why I'm testing).

So do you cut back saturation due to this tendency, or do you mess around with color tone?

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my 5d classic would blow reds quite often and also add red to skin tones.

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Jan 04, 2009 19:43 |  #14

so how do you define a proper saturation point of any color?


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Jan 04, 2009 19:51 |  #15

Darned if I know.

The only clean way to match colors is to do the take photo-scan original material-color match. That's not practical for most photographers, so I'm looking for people to say the 5D does/does not have a tendency towards red emphasis.

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so how do you define a proper saturation point of any color?


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