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Jan 08, 2009 00:23 |  #1

Why does Canon not make a 600mm f5.6?

They make a alternate to the 400 2.8 = 400 5.6
They make a nice 500 f4.
They make (way to big) 600mm f4 and (overpriced) 800mm 5.6

Why not give us a 600mm 5.6 or 6.3?

I would like to have a 600mm that is not gigantic and does not cost near ten grand.


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Jan 08, 2009 00:29 |  #2

Probably because super telephotos are only purchased by select types of photographers. They don't want to waste the effort designing a 5.6 version of the lens, when it won't sell enough to warrant marketing one.




  
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Jan 08, 2009 00:31 |  #3

What about a 500 5.6?




  
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Jan 08, 2009 00:34 |  #4

richardchoi wrote in post #7029609 (external link)
Probably because super telephotos are only purchased by select types of photographers. They don't want to waste the effort designing a 5.6 version of the lens, when it won't sell enough to warrant marketing one.

I would buy one, mainly for surfing etc


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Jan 08, 2009 02:22 |  #5

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Why does Canon not make a 600mm f5.6?

Because the 300mm f/2.8 with a 2x Extender does a great job.


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Jan 08, 2009 04:39 |  #6

OK, so they now have a 600/5.6. I can see the next question - Why doesn't Canon have a 600/4.5? (Yes, I know they did have one before.)


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Jan 08, 2009 05:30 |  #7

Well, the OP does have a point in that the 400/5.6 is the longest lens that Canon takes out to the f/5.6 slowest aperture that they make across the range (that is the slowest that will AF will all bodies).

I think a 500/5.6 with IS would make a lot of sense. This lens would weigh about 1.7 kg and could presumably cost as little as $2400. A lot of people would find it convenient, and there is no simple EF XXX + TC option that gets to this range. If the 400/4 wasn't DO, didn't cost $6600 and wasn't controversial as for IQ then this lens also would not be needed.

The 600/5.6 makes less sense, mainly because the 300/2.8 + 2X TC delivers the exact same range and aperture, and probably would weight and cost about the same.


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Jan 08, 2009 15:10 |  #8

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Well, the OP does have a point in that the 400/5.6 is the longest lens that Canon takes out to the f/5.6 slowest aperture that they make across the range (that is the slowest that will AF will all bodies).

I think a 500/5.6 with IS would make a lot of sense. This lens would weigh about 1.7 kg and could presumably cost as little as $2400. A lot of people would find it convenient, and there is no simple EF XXX + TC option that gets to this range. If the 400/4 wasn't DO, didn't cost $6600 and wasn't controversial as for IQ then this lens also would not be needed.

The 600/5.6 makes less sense, mainly because the 300/2.8 + 2X TC delivers the exact same range and aperture, and probably would weight and cost about the same.

Very good point on the 500 5.6...
However the 300 2.8 + 2X TC delivers nowhere near the image quality of the 600 f4.

It is way softer than my 400 5.6 and is "very slow to auto focus".

I had the 300 combo and did not like it. It was ok... but heavy as.

A 600mm 5.6 should be much lighter and with no IS unit it shouldn't breach 2K$


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Jan 08, 2009 15:10 |  #9

StewartR wrote in post #7029960 (external link)
Because the 300mm f/2.8 with a 2x Extender does a great job.

Not great,
I respectfully disagree.


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Jan 08, 2009 15:52 |  #10

I feel it does well. I agree its slooooooow to focus from min to infinity but it does great for the size, and money spent IMO. I have had good results.


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Jan 08, 2009 16:12 |  #11

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...but it does great for the size, and money spent IMO.

This combo is very large in my opinion.
I think a 600 5.6 could weigh much less.


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Jan 08, 2009 16:14 |  #12

Because there is a conspiracy to sell you the 800mm f/5.6 instead...I'm pretty sure Moderator Pete is the mastermind behind it too.




  
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Jan 08, 2009 17:23 |  #13

I do agree that a 500mm 5.6 would be great. I would jump on one.


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Jan 08, 2009 17:32 as a reply to  @ 4g63photo's post |  #14

I'm just repeating what I heard recently talking to some photog's - I have no proof if it's true or not -

That there are only like 10 people that are qualified to build and assemble the Canon Super-Tele's and it takes on average 1 month to manufacture a 400mm 2.8 from start to finish.




  
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Jan 08, 2009 18:37 |  #15

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I'm just repeating what I heard recently talking to some photog's - I have no proof if it's true or not -

That there are only like 10 people that are qualified to build and assemble the Canon Super-Tele's and it takes on average 1 month to manufacture a 400mm 2.8 from start to finish.

Interesting for sure. I think that may be more to do with demand than ability.

I just feel that their is a large gap missing from 400 5.6 to 500/600 f4.

I just dont need 500mm+ to be quite that fast but also dont want to add TC's to make the IQ plummet.


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