Hey Folks ,I'm sorry

"It's a good rule to keep things civil, but mod's will generally be pretty good about it".

Sometimes that's true, but at others, the mods have been the problem.

This site does seem to have a bigger problem than most keeping civil to each other. I for one do try to turn the other cheek, but at times I have lashed out in response to particularly unwarranted spiteful and personal attacks.

But that's the wrong note to end on. It's true that many contributors here offer help and advise in such a way that it's a real pleasure reading it.

Lowner wrote in post #7031549
"It's a good rule to keep things civil, but mod's will generally be pretty good about it".

Sometimes that's true, but at others, the mods have been the problem.

This site does seem to have a bigger problem than most keeping civil to each other. I for one do try to turn the other cheek, but at times I have lashed out in response to particularly unwarranted spiteful and personal attacks.

But that's the wrong note to end on. It's true that many contributors here offer help and advise in such a way that it's a real pleasure reading it.

If there are attacks that warrant some attention, use the report button rather than lashing out. I found that stepping back, and maybe grabbing a drink (any kind :eek really helps. Then come back to it. It's hard, especially with my personality, but with the internet, I have come to realize that it's just not worth it.

Hey, you think it's bad here? You ought to go over to the FM forum!

Seriously, there are a few here who need manner lessons from mommy, but most are very understanding of new people questions. Sorry you seemed to get the undisciplined ones.

dicklaxt wrote in post #7030269
For those of you who may have been involved in any of the posts in which in which I have asked a question. I am trying to learn and with out you and your knowledge it would be near impossible for me to ferret most of the info I need from text.

1st off, I am in awe of the knowledge base here and certainly realize its not an overnight thing to be in that position.You must remember that us rookies are not familar with the everyday terminology and jargon used in the camera world ,we have a feeling of frustration because of a lack of understanding and we can easily feel intimidation at the drop of a hat and a misused word.

I know how you feel too as other avenues in my life have put me on the other side of the fence where I am the knowledge base and someone else is the rookie. We have all gone thru this with our children when they ask why,why,why to everything in their life. They are trying to learn by asking and us rookies in the camera world are running a close parallel to that phase of their young lives as is in this phase of our adult lives when we ask or have a camera related issue.

So in a brief summary let me say if you give me a hint of ridicule or make me feel like a misplaced person right or wrong I will or may lash out in defense.I'm aware that most of you, if not all of you are not trying to be short with the rookies but please help us where you can.Okay off of the soap box

dick

My piece of helpful advice...dont ask the 50 1.4 vs 50 1.8 question, or which 70-200L hahaha. The forum is LITTERED with those discussions.

nw85887 wrote in post #7031480
...this should have probably been posted in "The POTN Lounge" forum (sorry, I couldn't resist :cool.

Speak of the devil...

The same ole threads do get old, but I just made the same stupid thread today. I made a 24-70 vs 24-105 thread today, because I thought about upgrading to 24-105 (or downgrading to some), because I already own the 24-70, but would like the reach of the 24-105 quite a bit. The first post I received on the thread was, "not another one of these threads." Research helps, but sometimes you want a more precise thread than what someone else posted in their own thread. The threads that really drive me crazy are the 17-40L and 5dii

Get an avatar...we want to see you!

All the above advice is good stuff. But, I'm going to add my 2 cents worth though.

It seems, to me, there are 2 areas of questions that draw the most fire.

First, as mentioned above, the questions that can be answered from your cameras manual OR by searching the forum. Example: f stops confuse me, can someone explain them to me? Tons of info on this all over the I-net.

Second is any question you could answer yourself by experimenting with your camera. Example: What would happen if I.....(fill-in the blank).

Stay away from those areas and you'll get very few ignorant replies. Notice I said "very few". We still have those that live on here and consider themselves as the ultimate authority on all things photographic. Just ignore them. They hate it!

Tom,

I remember trying to teach myself how to use a Sextant from a book. Years later I took a shore based theory course and the instructor managed to teach me how to do it in just one 2 hour lesson.

So while it might be irritating for these Know-alls, someone out there is struggling. Telling him or her "READ THIS YOU IDIOT" is no solution.

MattMoore wrote in post #7031480
I'm a pompous & sarcastic jackass

Good lord, where is that title fairy?!?!

Lowner wrote in post #7039059
Tom,

I remember trying to teach myself how to use a Sextant from a book. Years later I took a shore based theory course and the instructor managed to teach me how to do it in just one 2 hour lesson.

So while it might be irritating for these Know-alls, someone out there is struggling. Telling him or her "READ THIS YOU IDIOT" is no solution.

Richard,

I agree. But that's a bit different I think. There have been a few times I have been out shooting and have had someone ask a question. I certainly didn't tell them to read a book or the famous "google is your friend". It is a whole lot easier to do a show & tell in person than try and do it on a forum.

Lowner wrote in post #7031549
"It's a good rule to keep things civil, but mod's will generally be pretty good about it".

Sometimes that's true, but at others, the mods have been the problem.

This site does seem to have a bigger problem than most keeping civil to each other. I for one do try to turn the other cheek, but at times I have lashed out in response to particularly unwarranted spiteful and personal attacks.

I beg to differ. I find this to be one of the most mutually respectful, informative and well regulated forums, with the moderators quickly responsive to incipient trouble; or, to put it more succinctly:
Bull****!

xarqi wrote in post #7042421
I beg to differ. I find this to be one of the most mutually respectful, informative and well regulated forums, with the moderators quickly responsive to incipient trouble; or, to put it more succinctly:
Bull****!

Well said....this guy is constantly whining about this place. Not sure why he even bothers to come here if it is so horrible. Ask a sincere question here and you will get plenty of help.

Do people get their asses busted on occasion? Sure...and 99.999% of the time, it is done in jest...by someone trying to keep things light and fun. Perhaps we should have people with no sense of humor use this as their avatar so no one will joke with them.

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Welcome to POTN.

Ask away.

Enjoy.

dicklaxt wrote in post #7030269
I will or may lash out in defense.

dick

Oh, yeah? And my attack dog Nicksan will open a can of whoop arse all over you, bud.

Nicksan's master.