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Fuji S2 Pro vs. Canon 1D Mark II (800K of Images Warning)

 
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May 27, 2006 22:27 as a reply to  @ post 458054 |  #31

"When I first got the MkII I tried spot metering quite a bit.. look at your histogram and "blow outs" in the review when you do and notice that you are underexposing.. I'm not sure why this allways seems to be the case but to spot meter,. you really need to over compensate."

I don't know how close an analogy between film and digital practice one can safely draw but, if he is spot metering off a face or other skin tone, in film practice I would always open up one more stop from the indicated exposure since the meter will set exposure for medium gray and a face should be brighter than that. Of course, a plus one exposure compensation would do that as well. His MKII shots do all look underexposed. Perhaps such a compensation would be a good start.

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May 28, 2006 09:07 |  #32

truly shows the help POTN can give - I was like...

huh, why is dwight using a fuji, and then I realised the date :D


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May 28, 2006 09:32 |  #33

Hey Dwight...can you shed any more light on what all went in to your conversion from Fuji/Nikon to Canon? I'm very impressed with the photography that you post and would be interested in how your workflow differs now? Was it mainly just adjusting to how the different platforms work?

The pro who is mentoring me uses Fuji S2 and S3 pro cameras and I'll admit they are fun to use...but the spray and pray mode is pretty worthless and that's something important to a hack like me. Her studio stuff is amazing though!


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May 28, 2006 09:58 as a reply to  @ post 459342 |  #34

Actually that first shot isnt bad considering your angle and lighting...

the flares should of been a lot worse..!!

I dont want to get into a this brand against that brand thing but heres an idea...

Just look at your exif data and ask yourself are the shots
you are NOT happy with ALSO the ones violating the focal point rule ?

take into account the 1.6X crop issue if you have a aps-c sensor as well... so for your 17-35 if you are using a aps-c and shooting lets say 22 mm then you really should be shooting 1/35 at the LEAST to insure no blur !!!!!!!!


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May 29, 2006 15:00 as a reply to  @ JaertX's post |  #35

JaertX wrote:
Hey Dwight...can you shed any more light on what all went in to your conversion from Fuji/Nikon to Canon? I'm very impressed with the photography that you post and would be interested in how your workflow differs now? Was it mainly just adjusting to how the different platforms work?

The pro who is mentoring me uses Fuji S2 and S3 pro cameras and I'll admit they are fun to use...but the spray and pray mode is pretty worthless and that's something important to a hack like me. Her studio stuff is amazing though!

At this late date I don't want to discuss general comparisons: I am already committed to Canon and there are dozens of factors. So, how I got converted:

I was shooting my first boxing match at the casino. Since it was a ShowTime gig we weren't even sure what I was allowed to do. After amateur and early professional bouts shot from various places around the room I saw a photographer on the mat. I am very gregarious. I went up and introduced myself between fights. He asked me where I was shooting from and when I told him he grabbed a chair for me next to him and sat me down. He then proceeded to talk to me about cameras, almost ignoring the fights. It Tom Casino, who shoots for ShowTime and is quite well known. He said I should get equipment like his ... and proceeded to demonstrate half the features. I was sold. My business has accummulated a few bucks so I went down and bought a 1D Mark II, 16-35 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8L IS. Have since sold the Fuji S2 and Nikon glass.

It has taken me about a year to feel like I am in control of virtually every feature ... much more so than I ever was with the Fuji S2. Next step will be to converting to RAW.

As for workflow differences, there hasn't been much change but I attend to slightly different things. I am still experimenting. I am going to shoot RAW more and more because I am hoping to shoot more studio and landscape work. That will make a large workflow change. The Live Entertainment stuff, if I convert ever will be last to go RAW. The boxing may never. I shoot an easy 2000 frames as a boxing event. I've sold boxing images on three continents.


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May 29, 2006 16:32 as a reply to  @ thor67's post |  #36

thor67 wrote:
Actually that first shot isnt bad considering your angle and lighting...

the flares should of been a lot worse..!!

I dont want to get into a this brand against that brand thing but heres an idea...

Just look at your exif data and ask yourself are the shots
you are NOT happy with ALSO the ones violating the focal point rule ?

take into account the 1.6X crop issue if you have a aps-c sensor as well... so for your 17-35 if you are using a aps-c and shooting lets say 22 mm then you really should be shooting 1/35 at the LEAST to insure no blur !!!!!!!!

someone didn't read the date :)


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May 29, 2006 17:10 as a reply to  @ lakiluno's post |  #37

lakiluno wrote:
someone didn't read the date :)

We weren't going to mention that! :rolleyes:


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May 29, 2006 23:01 |  #38

thanks Dwight...I'm sure there's a lot to it.

I do like using the S3 and the Nikon glass and even though my images aren't up to par with hers (the pro mentoring me), I really can't help but feel I'm going in a better direction with Canon gear. The few times I've talked to her about it, she almost wants to jump ship, but never does...especially after using my 20D and seeing how quickly it's ready to shoot another RAW frame.

I haven't shot a wedding with her again since I've bought the 5D and two L zooms....we'll see how that goes. Her mentor (Frank Crichio...maybe misspelling on the last name) is a nikon/fuji guy...sponsored, I think.

Anyway, appreciate the reply!


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