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Jan 26, 2009 12:13 |  #1

Today I heard again what I heard many times before, that in vicinity of US naval war ships cameras simply don't work. I tried to search on the internet about this and couldn't find anything related. In my opinion, as I can understand how camera work (and I think I do understand well :rolleyes:) this is nonsense.

There is way to disable electronic equipment by applying too strong electromagnetic field around ship, but this will permanently destroy camera and other electronic, not temporary disable! Also, it will not have impact on classic film cameras. Supposedly, no camera works, neither digital or film.

Anybody know about this?




  
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Jan 26, 2009 12:31 |  #2

sounds like bunk to me.


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Jan 26, 2009 12:38 |  #3

"Permanently destroy?" Dunno about that but heavy RF environments can certainly play havoc with electronics.


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Jan 26, 2009 12:43 |  #4

Oh, so the photos and videos taken on board during new events must be all faked with Photoshop?


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Jan 26, 2009 12:49 |  #5

Wilt, nope, again supposedly, only when that "device" is switched on, cameras in vicinity don't work.

FlyingPhotog: well, there exist a "electromagnetic" weapon that destroy all unprotected electronic devices around. IMHO US army used it in their last few wars. If you apply too strong EM field, electronic circuits will surely fail. But will fail permanently. Am I correct?




  
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Jan 26, 2009 12:53 |  #6

I have heard about electronic jammers- used during VVIP movement, to prevent extremists from triggering IED's using cell phones etc.


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Jan 26, 2009 12:56 |  #7

Very, very strong EMP can stop engines and fuse circuits.


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Jan 26, 2009 13:47 |  #8

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Jan 26, 2009 14:00 as a reply to  @ turbo212003's post |  #9

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Jan 26, 2009 14:32 |  #10

I think you guys have been watching Goldeneye too much again. :D


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Jan 26, 2009 14:33 |  #11

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Jan 26, 2009 14:46 |  #12

:lol:

I'm also sceptic about that. But I've heard this from person that really does not have any reason to lie about that. She said that 90% of time being close to US ships (during training) their cameras were not operable at all.




  
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Jan 26, 2009 14:46 as a reply to  @ squashed's post |  #13
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I don't believe this is true, at least nowwhere that any of us (in port or in harbor) would be likely to encounter some highly classified ship.

I can assure you that if you were, say, at sea in your extremely expensive Motor Yach-at

(google how much we hate Duane Hagadone) and were to chase down a classified ship, you'd have motor launches and other troubles LOOOOOnnnnnggggg before you had to worry about some mysterious EMP

Having said that, there ARE --backin my day--VERY high power shipboard RADAR that can and did raise hell with equipment. The old SPS-30 was one, although I was never associated.

(My job, ending up ultimately at Miramar, was maintaining GCA (precision approach) and TACAN, both relatively low power stuff)


As a radio amateur, however, I can remember being around the SF/ San Diego harbors and receiving interferance from pulse RADARs from ships and other sources. These can blank TV's and raise hell with radios.

By the way---off this subject---this whole paranoia with RF damage from devices is pretty much overblown. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN a documented case of ANYONE suffering any death or serious medical damage from an RF transmitter, UNLESS they were doing something terribly wrong. By that I mean something on the order of:

Vandals illegally climbing towers with high-power FM/ TV other VHF/ UHF and or microwave devices Bear in mind this ALWAYS means climbing high and (usually) barbed fences, breaking locks, and other related ILLEGAL activities

Illegally (bypassing locks) eating your lunch and suntanning on tall building roofs in spite of plainly marked warnings in the near field of antenna installations

Bypassing the safeties on your microwave oven, and then sticking your limbs/ head/ dog/ other inside


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Jan 26, 2009 16:59 |  #14

More detailed explanation:

Supposedly, camera (450D) refused to shoot (like no autofocus can be achieved) from no place from which that warship can be seen (if ship is relatively close). If camera was entered inside of other ship (that was moored to warship!) it worked again normally. And so on. I repeat, the person that told me that does not have any reason to lie...




  
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Jan 26, 2009 17:24 as a reply to  @ coldplug's post |  #15

I spent a week two different times on the USS Mitscher (my son is staioned on that ship) a guided missile destroyer and both times I shot all week long with a 30d and a 40d. The ships photographer was using a 20d so I think we can say 'Myth BUSTED!'




  
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