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Feb 06, 2009 08:59 |  #226

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Feb 06, 2009 12:02 |  #227

tonylong wrote in post #7265516 (external link)
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the simple, yet exquisite and powerful method of bringing out lens cap beauty:

100 mm macro with 12,24,36 stacked tubes then stacked 1.4x & 2x TCs: awesome detail -- you should be able to capture the eyeballs of the neutrons!

Great in theory! However, the resulting loss of IQ by stacking the TCs and the stacked tubes makes it difficult to see the catchlight in the neutron's eyeballs. More like a blurred light spot. I didn't try it with the TCs personally, but with the 12,24,36 stack I already noticed quite a degredation in the sharpness, not to mention the DOF was getting to the point you could only see the very front of the neutron's eye.


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Feb 06, 2009 12:43 |  #228

GCGuy wrote in post #7267978 (external link)
Great in theory! However, the resulting loss of IQ by stacking the TCs and the stacked tubes makes it difficult to see the catchlight in the neutron's eyeballs. More like a blurred light spot. I didn't try it with the TCs personally, but with the 12,24,36 stack I already noticed quite a degredation in the sharpness, not to mention the DOF was getting to the point you could only see the very front of the neutron's eye.

I was about to say... if the DOF was any shallower it would be negative!


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Feb 06, 2009 16:47 |  #229

I thought Canon's L series lens caps would be made with exquisite precision but the only ones I've seen are made of some cheap plastic!

And where's the red stripe that would allow others to see that you're a sophisticated, worldly photographer who knows a quality lens cap when he (and everyone else) sees it? Nowhere to be found.

But at least the optical quality is superb, the way you'd expect Canon's best lens caps to be.

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Feb 06, 2009 17:17 |  #230

Is this good ISO 800 performance?

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Feb 06, 2009 17:22 |  #231

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
Is this good ISO 800 performance?

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It looks good, but did you have autofocus set? It appears alot softer than it should. EXIF data please


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Feb 06, 2009 17:23 |  #232

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
Is this good ISO 800 performance?

For a DiMAGE 7i, yes.




  
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Feb 06, 2009 17:27 |  #233

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
Is this good ISO 800 performance?

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OMG! :shock: Some of the pixies have escaped from your sensor and started giving your lens cap a psychadelic paint job! It happens when you don't give them enough real work to do. Listen carefully ..... take off the lens cap .... it's OK, I know this is new territory but trust me .... point your camera at something with lots of colour in it and press the shutter a few times. The pixies will have to paint pictures on your sensor instead - that's how digital cameras work, you see! :D

...... I just hope there's enough of them left. You may have thought you had a 12 Mp camera but it may be only 10Mp now! :(


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Feb 06, 2009 17:28 |  #234

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
Is this good ISO 800 performance?

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Well, it's not a bad shot, but my first suggestion is that the subject is too centered, making it a bit boring. Try cropping it a bit at one side and off the top or the bottom to give a more interesting effect -- you might be pleased.

Then, try selecting the subject then isolating the background into its own layer and apply a fairly hefty amount of noise reduction to turn that background into a nice smooth smear. Gaussian blur may actually give an even more effective look here -- kinda blend colors together instead of blot them.

Then, take the subject and sharpen the bejeebers out of it! You have plenty of latitude here. Do not try something like skin processing or you will lose that distinctive grainy quality!

Give it a try and post your results!


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Feb 06, 2009 18:14 |  #235

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
Is this good ISO 800 performance?

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If I was you, I would send my lens cap back to Canon for repair/calibration. Maybe it has a rare phenomenon.


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Feb 06, 2009 20:12 |  #236

tharmsen wrote in post #7270068 (external link)
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What's your firmware rev?

You may have the ill-fated firmware rev that had the "dust delete data" function reversed by mistake.

You might want to try the Russian hacked firmware as you will get the previously locked out "Lenscap cleaning function" turned on, that might help a bit.


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Feb 06, 2009 20:22 |  #237

It's ok fellas, I ran it through noise ninja and it looks fine now.

Whew.

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Feb 06, 2009 20:24 as a reply to  @ GSansoucie's post |  #238

smorter wrote in post #7231530 (external link)
Wow there are some strange posts in this thread, a lot of people seem to have the wrong idea about defective pixels :(



The frequency of defective pixels on a CMOS imaging sensor is not uniform across sensors. Different sensors have different amounts of defective pixels, and it's hard to tell the exact amount as many should be screened out during the intial production stage CMOS calibration





The dots are a sensor malfunction, it should not be affected by what the lens resolves optically (i.e. handshake should be irrelevant)


The lens cap is detached from the lens when photographing, and does not impede the optical path, nor affect it in any manner, so the brand of cap is irrelevant for image quality purposes. The only possible conceivable way that a lens cap type can affect resultant image quality from the lens is if the inside of the lens cap is poorly designed so that it ends up scratching the front element. Scratches may result in increased flare, and possibly loss of contrast


If you are getting strange colored dots in a photo which was taken with the lens cap on, it suggests you have defective pixels and that your CMOS will need to be recalibrated by Canon


The photo will likely come out pitch black, and the filter would thus make no meaningful impact on the image as there would be no discernible subject matter anyway


Canon deal with their products only, if you are suffering issues with other optical products, you would be better served to seek advice from the respective manufacturer. Having said that though, it would not be normal for corrective spectacles to exhibit symptoms of phenomena associated with electronic devices.


Defective pixels are a very real, and problematic issue though. You probably should have chosen a better topic to satirize.


You are misinformed here, the defective pixels are a sensor defect, and are not affected by optical limits such as diffraction.


As the lens cap will block the light from entering the lens, this is an irrelevant issue


A uniform color is indicative of a clean sensor. It is only when there are unusual marks or spots that a sensor clean may be required


The cap is to protect the front of the lens, it is not supposed to be on the lens when you take a photograph. As such, the lens cap itself has no direct implications for image quality, but may indirectly affect the image quality derived from the lens if it somehow damages the lens element or impedes your own performance through poor design. Canon lens caps are generally regarded as poor because they do not have a centre pinch function, which impairs their ease of use

Your statement suggests a lack of familiarity around camera systems. I suggest learning the functions of your equipment, and getting some experience before taking on weddings.


This is incorrect. Canon lens caps are generally regarded as poor because they do not have a centre pinch function, which impairs their ease of use. Tamron, Tokina and Nikon Caps are far superior with their centre pinch functions. I routinely replace my Canon caps with Tamron Caps from B&H Photo


Defect pixels are native to the sensor. Lens optical considerations are irrelevant. Changing aperture or DOF or focus will not affect the appearance of defect pixels


You don't HAVE to have a macro lens. You only need a macro lens if you want a 1:1 photo of the lens cap. But even then, you can probably get away with a lower magnification lens, and crop in.


This thread is about defective pixels on the CMOS imaging sensor. The Black dots were an imaging phenomena that has now been addressed, but defect pixels are still a problem, and Canon's poor QC is making it worse as these should be screened out during the initial CMOS calibration during production


Did you make a typo? Photographing with a lens cap on is designed to exacerbate the visual perception of defective pixels. By isolating these defective pixels against a black background, it allows the human eye to identify their location and occurrence easier.



Are you sure you aren't being ripped off? Lens Caps are usually under $10. You are grossly overpaying for lens caps.

Amazing that you can actually convey a straight face in a typed statement...:rolleyes: :lol: ;)


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Feb 06, 2009 21:15 |  #239

I think the key phrase here is from the most recent Batman movie, and to quote the Joker:
"Why SOOOO SERIOUS!?!??"

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Feb 06, 2009 23:47 |  #240

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Amazing that you can actually convey a straight face in a typed statement...:rolleyes: :lol: ;)

He's a piece of work. I mean that in the most admiring way possibly, of course.

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