Another Mac Trojan

MaxxuM wrote in post #7222911
A Mac virus/trojan/hijacker comes out and it's news - there are thousands of infected Windows files being shared and it's par-for-the-course. I'm highly skilled at detecting and removing such things from computers and I won't touch pirated software. 571ck w17h 4 M4c

nice. Your a closet mac lover!!! d0nT DoWn10ad piR4t3D 5ofTw4r3!!

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john it is totally relevant i was a victim also. as far as the Madof people with a little more do-dilligence and most wouldn't have lost a thing.

FYI: I just payed $200 for Aperture2 and & $1600 for http://www.prolandscap​e.com
now I have to pay to install it ( windows on MB through bootcamp).

Just curious Steve as to what you find hard about installing software? I'm not being sarcastic or anything I'm just curious.

Last time I looked this thread was a discussion and warning about a new security threat aimed directly at Apple Macs, which have a reputation for being safe from such things.

In light of that, I suggest the discussion about financial investments and thievery comes to an end.

Moppie sorry about that I get carried away sometimes.

dan-o Im new to Mac and have and have no clue how to run windows parreoll with a macbook.I am old school and don't mind having someone else work on my electronics.

Paul J McCain wrote in post #7227122
if you're "highly skilled," why would you not touch them?

One, I'm not a thief.
Two, I don't go looking for trouble dispite my skills.
Three, I don't frequent the places where this stuff comes from.
Four, I work for the government & honor my word.
Five, it requires more effort to look for malware than just buying softareat 80-90% off regular prices.
Six, I like full support from vendors.

Would you like me to go on?

butangviber wrote in post #7227279
nice. Your a closet mac lover!!! d0nT DoWn10ad piR4t3D 5ofTw4r3!!

I came out of the closet years ago LOL... Had a party and everthing and my family still accepts me

The security warning was given after a key consideration: A large part of Mac users are American Students... Students are more likely (note what I say more likely...) to share software between friends. Photoshop is probably one of the most shared/pirated applications on the planet (and is most likely the reason for it's success).

This is the second such attack in as many weeks and with the Mac population hovering around 10% Stateside it's not a insignificant number.

The trojan is also totally transparent to the user (so far) so a lot of machines are infected as evidenced by a recent DoS to major backbone providers.

You could say that they brought it on themselves that maybe so but unfortunately the effects of such attacks are felt worldwide due to what can be done with a pwned system.

So if you've got kids and they have a Mac time to check their systems out.

HankScorpio wrote in post #7225457
No, because the trojan is only in illegal copies of CS4. Given that Photoshop still remains one of the most stolen pieces of software despite Adobe's best efforts, that is surely a factor in Adobe employees losing their jobs due to poor sales. So I couldn't blame someone from specifically targeting the thieves that helped to lose them their job with a virus that they deserve.

It's arguable that Adobe doesn't put too much into it (obviously some effort, otherwise that would be lame). All those kids who get Adobe stuff when they are still in school and learn it will mostly likely be future buyers/users when they are in the professional world. Might not be as ideal as trials, but like MS, as long as they keep market share...

Faolan wrote in post #7228401
The security warning was given after a key consideration: A large part of Mac users are American Students... Students are more likely (note what I say more likely...) to share software between friends. Photoshop is probably one of the most shared/pirated applications on the planet (and is most likely the reason for it's success).

So, you're saying its OK to be a thief as long as your a student? Its OK to be a thief as long as it because they can't afford to buy the software? So, if the same students walked into a store and stole a fine-watch, it's OK, because maybe someday they'll be an honest customer? Basically, you're feeding the attitude its OK to steel software/music, as long as you cant afford it. Nope, I can't be in that camp. A thief is a thief, regardless of the reason, and scum in my book. No one NEEDs photoshop, with so many free or low-cost alternatives. And, to me it would be better if the students learned to use GIMP, and took that to their future workplace as a tool choice. Then maybe Adobe would be forced to price PS reasonably.

You're just making excuses for kids to be thieves. I stand by HaHa to any thief that lost anything from this trojan.

grego wrote in post #7230710
It's arguable that Adobe doesn't put too much into it (obviously some effort, otherwise that would be lame). All those kids who get Adobe stuff when they are still in school and learn it will mostly likely be future buyers/users when they are in the professional world. Might not be as ideal as trials, but like MS, as long as they keep market share...

You're probably correct about Adobe gaining market share do to the thieves, but I don't think they support it. If Adobe really wanted to get into Colleges, wouldn't it be better for them, and the students, if they offered low-cost student pricing? Hell, put a 1 year expiration date, and give nearly free student versions. Seems a heck of a lot smarter than creating thieves to promote their product, doesn't it? Pretty simple idea too, so if Adobe felt it a good thing to give students copies, they'd do it, rather than any effort to thwart thieves.

JC4 wrote in post #7231308
So, you're saying its OK to be a thief as long as your a student? Its OK to be a thief as long as it because they can't afford to buy the software?

I never said I endorsed piracy/software theft? Where in that paragraph can you construe that? I was merely stating a observation throughout the years that I have had of students. I can't make no excuse for other people as I have no responsibility for them.

Piracy is a fact of life. It's not down to Adobe or any major corporation but the parents themselves who have let this attitude seep into society. They are the ones who helped create this mess by lax morals. Before you think I'm a moralist I'm not and I don't condone and have never condoned piracy in any shape or form that includes copying CDs onto tapes which many people probably have done here (that includes those who had legal CDs)...

Also at issue we are a cross-point in society and information data. At no point in history has the access to data, copyright acts and information has been so unrestricted. It has created a crisis both legal ramifications (note RIAAs debaclé) and social mores.

They already do, check out the Adobe website They offer the full creative suite at low rates. Also if you're a teacher (and can prove it) then you get the discount as well.

GIMP has potential but if a person wants to break into the Design Industry they must learn PS. GIMP lacks a lot of features that makes Photoshop indispensable, if you don't believe me I posted a link to a review of it a few weeks back that was on Ars. GIMP has come a long way and it's starting to shape up but it it's workflow is it's achiles heel. I'd rather recommend Elements than GIMP.

At the end of the day I will continue raising the issue of Mac security threats regardless because most Mac owners don't have any protection installed. I could start raising the issue of Windows threats but most systems have a AV/Firewall and also should be updated on Patch Tuesday. Also Windows Defender/MSRT is starting to do a good job at removing threats.

The biggest security risk is not the computer but the user not matter how locked down it is. This Mac 'threat' shows this clearly and starkly. This is basic 101 for InfoSec.

Faolan wrote in post #7231433
I never said I endorsed piracy/software theft? Where in that paragraph can you construe that? I was merely stating a observation throughout the years that I have had of students. I can't make no excuse for other people as I have no responsibility for them.

I missunderstood. I agree, its reality, not my no-thievery dream world

They already do, check out the Adobe website They offer the full creative suite at low rates. Also if you're a teacher (and can prove it) then you get the discount as well.

Good deal, I never looked into it. So, there's even less reason to be a thief. Its a conscious choice by the thieves. They could easily skip a couple nights partying and afford a copy.

I agree, its NOT PS. But, it will get the job done for most. Elements is a cheap option, that does a LOT of what PS does. I agree, to get into the field, learning PS is important. Doesn't mean they need to be a thief to get it, especially with student discounts available.

Good, not a problem with that. Its important for folks to know, so keep it up. I'll continue to say HaHa to any thief that gets burned, and continue to hate the virus/trojan writers, and continue to feel bad for any honest person that gets burned by viruses/trojans.

Moppie wrote in post #7223437
I am old enough to remember when Virus's first started to become a problem, they found their way into the consumer market via pirated software shared around on big old fashioned floppy discs.

Hey Moppie, are you coming to the swap meet next weekend? I got a second 1541 now so we can scream through the copying.

MaxxuM wrote in post #7228267
I work for the government.

Oh, so that's where my tax dollars are going, all those P.O.T.N. posts.