LR: Printer profile?? Can LR show on screen what will print?

I thought i had a good grasp on this. Guess not. I have calibrated my monitor with EYE one. I have finnaly found the printer profile for my hp printer on my computer and copied that to the fold that Lightroom uses to find its profiles. Question is this.

How do i see on screen what the printer will print. When i have the print preview show up (via hp driver) the picture looks less vibrant than the picture in lightroom. I have picked several of the hp printer profiles and they are come up different in the preview window. How do i get lightroom to show on the screen what it will look like on the printer?

Or am I looking at this wrong. is it supposed to be, I calibrate screen, get picture how i want it to look, go to print. tell lightroom what printer profile to use, the IT tells the printer to look like the screen? I am not getting that.

If I understand, you are asking whether Lightroom has a softproofing option?

I could easily be wrong because I don't use LR, but I think not. As far as I'm aware only the full version of Photoshop has it.

Unfortunately, LR doesn't softproof right now. I'm sure a lot of people, including me, wish it would. If you browse the LR forums, you will see it seems hit or miss whether people can get LR to print proper colors. I'm in the camp that has problems in this area. As of now, I'm using Qimage which is an AWESOME printing program. Prints match my calibrated monitor every time. I still wish I could get LR to print properly.

I was afraid of that. I do use lightroom, how do i get photoshop to do that. I was playing around before with photoshop. Under Edit--> assign profile i clikc the HP profile and that does change the color of the image. Is that the correct way to do it?

NO.

Don't assign the printer profile.
Don't do anything else with the documents profile either.

You soft proof in PS using the printer profile, then you set PS to manage colors instead of the printer.

Have a read in the link from my sig regarding color managed printing and soft proofing.

Yeah...you never assign the printer prof. to the actual image. You rather "look through" the profile to see how the image might look in print.

It is under view --> proof setup.

AlphaChicken wrote in post #7290003
You rather "look through" the profile to see how the image might look in print.

That's a nice way of putting it. Have to remember that

ok, so make sure i understand this better. I am going to read that whole post about color managing. But, So i understand this. I have calibrated monitor. I edit picture the way i want it to look. When printing (either lightroom, or photoshop) I select the printer profile when printing. The program tells to printer (through its filter/profile) to make the printer print what is on the screen to the best of its ability.

Selecting the profile tells the program (lightroom) what the printer will do with certain colors, so with the profile it corrects for slight differences of what the printer will do?

Ok, I read alot of that color manage thread. I d/l the test file (printtestfile.jpg.zip​) I forget the website. THe link is in that threat. It has a couple color patters and a hand with jewely and holding color balls. It is pretty close to what i see on the screen, except for the blue. It is from the website the digital dog.

My question is this. The blue on the necklace on her hand is lighter in shade then the one on my screen. Deeper blue on the screen, lighter blue on the print. It seems as if it is the blue tint. Could this be a gamut issue.

Also in all this research, i saw there was a way that i could self profile my printer with out the tools. I know it won't be acurate. How would i go about configureing my printer to bump up the blue, then save that profile?

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=644884
$20 sounds like a bargain.

Two things to know:

First, you need to set both Lightroom and your printer driver to let Lightroom do the management. In Lightroom you select this in the Print panel. But for the printer, you have to click on the Color tab and, in the drop down list for managing the color you select the option to let the application manage the color.

The next thing is just a simple understanding: there will be some difference between what you see on a backlit monitor and what you see on a reflective print. A "reasonable" match is what you are after. After sorting color management issues, the biggest problem is having a monitor with brightness issues.

tonylong wrote in post #7301539
Two things to know:

First, you need to set both Lightroom and your printer driver to let Lightroom do the management. In Lightroom you select this in the Print panel. But for the printer, you have to click on the Color tab and, in the drop down list for managing the color you select the option to let the application manage the color.

The next thing is just a simple understanding: there will be some difference between what you see on a backlit monitor and what you see on a reflective print. A "reasonable" match is what you are after. After sorting color management issues, the biggest problem is having a monitor with brightness issues.

I know how to select the printer stuff. is this what you are talking about? I captured a screen shot so show. where is the color tab you are talking about?

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Download and read the pdf here.
(One of the links in the link from my sig )

Click Print... then in the dialog click Preferences to bring up your printer driver dialog. There should be a tab for Color, and in that dialog a drop-down list to indicate how you want your color managed. It should include having the application manage your color.

Both options need to be selected (the one in LR that you show and the one in the HP driver).

René Damkot wrote in post #7302195
Download and read the pdf here.
(One of the links in the link from my sig )

Thanks I did not see that! I read alot of it, clicked on a couple of the links, but it was late and went to sleep