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Feb 26, 2009 02:22 as a reply to  @ post 7409202 |  #31

Here's something a bit out of the ordinary. Recently, I acquired a tilting adapter for Pentacon Six lenses to fit the EF mount. As you can see from my list, I have a LOT of Pentacon Six-mount lenses. For this picture, I chose:

Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm/2.8, Pentacon Six

which was made as the normal lens for the medium-format Pentacon Six camera. That camera was later reincarnated as the Exakta 66, and came with Schneider lenses. The normal lenses supplied with that camera were reskinned versions of this lens until Schneider retasked one of its Xenotar lenses for the duty. This lens is a five-element Planar design, and the design is rather old, though this lens dates from 1983. The build quality and styling of the lens is similar to the Zeiss Jena Sonnars pictured in my previous post.

As a medium-format lens, it has an 80mm+ image circle and can thus take the 8-degree tilt of the adapter in stride. The tilting adapter maintains infinity focus and when not tilted works fine as a conventional adapter, though it does not have a focus-confirm chip. I do have a P6-EF adapter with a focus-confirm chip, and one without. I can even adapt these lenses to my Pentax 645.

The adapter sells for $129 from Kiev Camera. It is described and can be bought here. (external link)

In the image, the lens was tilted to the left 8 degrees to turn the focus plane to run along the fence. The effect cannot be duplicated in Photoshop, and it would take an unacceptably (or infeasibly) small aperture to achieve the needed depth of field in any case. The lens was set to f/5.6, the white balance was 5000K, and there was no exposure compensation in the conversion from raw. The camera was a 5D, in Av mode. The shutter speed was 1/4000 at ISO400, and I really stretched my technique by hand-holding it at that speed.

The Biometar is a simply outstanding lens. Other images from the same session show critical sharpness at f/8 on a par with any of my other lenses.

More on the adapter: I have a Hartblei PCS lens in 45mm, based on Ukrainian glass. That shift lens has rotation, and on this adapter, would provide independent rotation for the shift and the tilt. I have not yet experimented with that combination. That lens is available used in the coupla-hundred range. Need a cheap alternative to the Canon 45 and 90mm TS/E lenses? Here you go.

Rick "thinking the artistic possibilities here take me back to my view camera days" Denney


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Feb 26, 2009 02:27 |  #32

^ That is REALLY COOL.


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Feb 26, 2009 02:30 as a reply to  @ post 7409309 |  #33

my gosh Rick, those posts were informative and interesting...I say keep posting until you get to the end of your "list" :)


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Feb 26, 2009 02:33 |  #34

Permagrin wrote in post #7409314 (external link)
my gosh Rick, those posts were informative and interesting...I say keep posting until you get to the end of your "list" :)

Yes! And show us shots from the Jupiter 85 2 Rick! No Helios-44, no bokeh monster in the gear list? :p [And WHY do you have that Phoenix 100-400 zoom?]


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Feb 26, 2009 03:06 |  #35

perryge wrote in post #7409320 (external link)
Yes! And show us shots from the Jupiter 85 2 Rick! No Helios-44, no bokeh monster in the gear list? :p [And WHY do you have that Phoenix 100-400 zoom?]

The Sonnar is the bokeh-monster. (The 180/2.8, that is. And the 300/4 Sonnar is also nothing to sneeze at.)

I have been consistently disappointed with the Jupiter--the focus ring on it is so stiff it keeps unscrewing itself out of the adapter when I try to focus it. I suppose I'll need to take it apart and relube it, which is a little annoying given that it is not at all old.

I think I'll drop by the Photorama show on Sunday and see what's out there.

The Phoenix? What can I say? It seemed like a good idea at the time. But even it is not without it's artistic possibilities. (I'll link an image here (external link) instead of displaying it, since that would violate the intent of the thread.) You just can't make very big prints. It is a LOT lighter than the 500mm Prakticar, however. I'll make some images with it for this thread, when I get my truck fixed (so I can haul it around).

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Feb 26, 2009 13:48 as a reply to  @ post 7412317 |  #36

from a couple of days ago with the 50

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=7398130&post​count=4239


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Feb 26, 2009 16:53 |  #37

haha Rick, you are so funny XD

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at f/1.7, Rebel XTi, Exposure: 0.008 sec (1/125), ISO 400 (no flash).


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100% crop

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Sorry if its a little big but I wanted you to be able to see the details.

These roses were sitting on someones desk, so I desided to take some photos of them. :)

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Feb 26, 2009 21:25 |  #38

mazdaspeed wrote in post #7412247 (external link)
Do any of you actually use these lenses? All I see is talk about how sharp they are, then occasional snapshots with 100% crops, showing how sharp they are. There are only a few posts at the beginning that have photos with any thought put into them and the thread is 10 pages long...

I've used my nikkors for birding and such....

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some 100% crops from a series I shot of a redheaded pecker just for fun...

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and this is about a 50% crop...
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this is near full frame with the 300...
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Feb 27, 2009 14:45 as a reply to  @ post 7420062 |  #39

I can't believe this thread has this many posts. :shock: Oh, it has no pictures! Now that makes sense! ;)

I am going to do some pruning. I will move the "chit chat" over to a new thread so you folks can continue discussions about MF lenses in general, but I would prefer to keep this thread focussed (no pun intended) on pictures. Of course feel free to discuss the pictures or add things about a lens like Rick did.


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Feb 27, 2009 14:53 |  #40

Please continue the discussion here:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=653759


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Feb 27, 2009 16:11 as a reply to  @ In2Photos's post |  #41

I'm surprised how many different lenses are showing up in here so quick. Here's mine - Mamiya 50mm f1.4, first shot is as f1.4, second at (or near) f16, third shot is a mirror shot showing the lens on camera (kind of) all on a 5dmk2. To make it work, I actually cut up a Canon body cap and siliconed the attachement part onto the lens itself. Then, to test the manual aperture of the lens, here's (external link) a video shot on the 5dmk2. Still kinda playing with the whole thing.

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Feb 27, 2009 18:49 |  #42

justincase724 wrote in post #7420732 (external link)
I'm surprised how many different lenses are showing up in here so quick. Here's mine - Mamiya 50mm f1.4, first shot is as f1.4, second ...
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Wow, that bokeh is just amazing - that is some of the coolest 50mm bokeh I've seen.

Can you elaborate on how on how you attached that Mamiya to EOS?


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Feb 27, 2009 19:01 |  #43

versedmb wrote in post #7421566 (external link)
Can you elaborate on how on how you attached that Mamiya to EOS?

I'll have to get a few pictures of it this weekend and get back to you on it, cause it'll really help to have something to show with the explaination.

Okay, here we go. First, you've got your standard Canon body cap as shown in picture #1. From how it is shown there, I basically cut it in half, using only the part that secures onto the camera body. Then, I used some standard black silicon to "glue" the piece of body cap to the base of the lens. Pictures 2 and 3 (try to) show how it looks on the lens.

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Feb 27, 2009 20:39 |  #44

justincase724 wrote in post #7420732 (external link)
I'm surprised how many different lenses are showing up in here so quick. Here's mine - Mamiya 50mm f1.4, first shot is as f1.4, second at (or near) f16, third shot is a mirror shot showing the lens on camera (kind of) all on a 5dmk2. To make it work, I actually cut up a Canon body cap and siliconed the attachement part onto the lens itself.

This confuses me. That Mamiya/Sekor lens looks like the normal lens for the old 1000DTL camera, which was made back in the late 60's/early 70's. I had one of those. The lenses were conventional M42 lenses that Mamiya called "Universal Screw Mount" to keep from having to utter the P word (either Pentacon, who invented the mount, or Pentax, who made it famous). Is this something different?

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Feb 28, 2009 00:13 |  #45

rdenney wrote in post #7422188 (external link)
This confuses me. That Mamiya/Sekor lens looks like the normal lens for the old 1000DTL camera, which was made back in the late 60's/early 70's. I had one of those. The lenses were conventional M42 lenses that Mamiya called "Universal Screw Mount" to keep from having to utter the P word (either Pentacon, who invented the mount, or Pentax, who made it famous). Is this something different?

I had to go dig out the camera a took it from, and sure enough, it is the 1000DTL. That's kinda crazy that you could tell what that was by the lens.


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