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Aug 05, 2013 21:35 |  #5641

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16184229 (external link)
Idk which is which, but both look a little bit over-exposed to me. That said, when used wide open the aperture should look pretty much the same since they use the same optical formula (if I remember correctly), when stopping down is when the extra aperture blades should make a difference. That's the reason I'm starting to like my Helios 44 more than my Yashica 50/1.4, I usually stop down the Yashica to around f/2 to widen the DOF (yes, I said widen :p) and when I do I get octagons all over the background which look really unpleasing to me... stopping down the Helios the background still looks good, same with my Yashica 50/1.7 DS-M, my finger has been hovering over the "buy it now" for an ML version of my 1.7 for the whole weekend... lol.

Yeah, they are a bit over. My daughter wasn't being very cooperative today, and when I looked at the LCD, these exposure settings looked best of what I had, and the histo looked the best also. I took a grand total of 3 pics :/ before she decided she had enough. The 3rd was a bit under.

Makes sense about stopping down to see the difference. I must be weird. With all my manual lenses, I use them wide open. Always. I only use them for certain things, so it works, and I'm really going for the bokeh without having to do much work. My EF lenses are for the other stuff.

If anyone cares, the warmer pic is the Helios, and the cooler is the CZ Biotar. I really expected to like the Biotar more, but so far (and it hasn't been very long), I'm really liking the Helios. I think the colors are truer. I have another Biotar coming, and I'm going to see if there is any difference (doubt it) between the three.

In any case, I personally love the bokeh of these lenses.


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Aug 05, 2013 21:46 |  #5642

KirkS518 wrote in post #16184328 (external link)
Makes sense about stopping down to see the difference. I must be weird. With all my manual lenses, I use them wide open. Always. I only use them for certain things, so it works, and I'm really going for the bokeh without having to do much work. My EF lenses are for the other stuff.

You're not the only one, I think most of the people who post in this thread do the same for whatever reason (hence why I joked about wanting a wider DOF). I use my MF glass for just about everything now, I've used my Helios stopped all the way down to f/16 on my EOS M and still gotten great results, it's an excellent lens! I might try to find a multi-coated version since mine does flare a good bit sometimes...

Here's an example at f/16 with the Helios 44m-4 on the EOS M

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Random-19 (external link) by EverydayGetaway (external link), on Flickr

I apologize if it's a repost, but it's the only shot I had at minimum aperture :p

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Aug 05, 2013 22:50 |  #5643

Everyday...
Did you get my PM?
Did you see the lens test posted on previous page with the aperture info you asked for?


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Aug 05, 2013 23:00 |  #5644

kitacanon wrote in post #16184525 (external link)
Everyday...
Did you get my PM?
Did you see the lens test posted on previous page with the aperture info you asked for?

Ah, yes, I did, thank you! I was at work when I got it so I didn't respond ;)

I'm still not exactly clear on if it opens up fully by 150mm, or what, but it's not that important anyway, all I know is it produces great shots :cool:

Here's one from it at 70mm wide open

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And from my dad's Nikkor 105/2.5 I think wide open... unfortunately he was reminded he liked this lens so I couldn't take it off his hands :lol:

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And this one is from his Nikkor 15/3.5 fisheye

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Aug 06, 2013 07:56 |  #5645

All good but I like the FE best ^^^^^^^^^




  
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Aug 06, 2013 08:14 |  #5646

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16184551 (external link)
Ah, yes, I did, thank you! I was at work when I got it so I didn't respond ;)

I'm still not exactly clear on if it opens up fully by 150mm, or what, but it's not that important anyway, all I know is it produces great shots :cool:

From the table it seems clear that the widest aperture @ 150mm is F4...F4 may become widest at an wider FL, and you can test that on the Nikon with a meter and see at what FL the shutter speed changes/increases exposure....since you asked.


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Aug 07, 2013 04:27 |  #5647

KirkS518 wrote in post #16183999 (external link)
Last week I picked up a Carl Zeiss Biotar T 58mm f/2. I happened to have had a Helios 44-2 on order at the same time. Played around with the CZ, and the Helios just got here today. For grins and giggles, I did a side-by-side comparison.

Both are really sharp.
One is warmer, the other cooler.
Bokeh to me looks pretty closer to identical, which I find interesting, as the CZ has 10 blades, whereas the Helios only has 8 blades.

Both shots at ISO 100, f/2, 1/500, focused on the eyes, using a tripod without moving anything between lens change. No PP at all, these are the embedded jpegs (camera neutral in my cfn).

Anyone want to venture which is which?
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Not familiar with either lens but my gut feeling was Zeiss is the second one as I just like that image better. Obviously I didn't go with Warmness as the criteria. That must have to do with their coatings and in general I believe Helios looks a lot like normal plane glass than Biotar (Less coating thickness).

Strange thing for me is that if everything constant as you say while taking the images (And this seems that way) why there is a tighter native crop of Zeiss image compare with Helios? It seem either Helios is wider than 58mm or Biotar is longer than 58 by a tad. For sure there is a difference in focal length if distance to subject is not changed.

But then most important thing I wanted to point out is already discussed and that is the effect of more blades will not be notice whatsoever if you shoot wide open. You need to bring the blades in by closing down the diaphragm before seeing the effect. In fact the best way to talk of great additive effect of larger blade numbers is to take that full F closed image of silhouette subject when sun is behind and then see how nice sun circle will look with larger blade lens and off course the bokeh effect as discussed above.


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Aug 07, 2013 07:52 as a reply to  @ samsen's post |  #5648

does any one have the nikkor 24mm 2.8 non AI lens? If so do you have any sample pics with it? Or any info about it? thx


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Aug 07, 2013 13:07 as a reply to  @ tmorris804's post |  #5649

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85MM 1.4 ZEISS ZE 6D

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Aug 07, 2013 13:57 |  #5651

tmorris804 wrote in post #16187944 (external link)
does any one have the nikkor 24mm 2.8 non AI lens? If so do you have any sample pics with it? Or any info about it? thx

I had one, one of the 1st imported to US in 1968....it didn't do well on a Canon Dslr...let it go, along with the 1st generation 35/2 Nikkor...the Canon 35/2 is better, and the OLY 24/2.8 is MUCH better than the Nikkor...MUUUUUCH better...


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Aug 07, 2013 14:19 |  #5652

kitacanon wrote in post #16188815 (external link)
I had one, one of the 1st imported to US in 1968....it didn't do well on a Canon Dslr...let it go, along with the 1st generation 35/2 Nikkor...the Canon 35/2 is better, and the OLY 24/2.8 is MUCH better than the Nikkor...MUUUUUCH better...

DAMN I BOUGHT IT OFF EBAY BEFORE I SAW YOUR POST. I asked some one who knew more about it than me and they said thens should be nice. They even compared it to Zuiko and Yashica. Smh damn!


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Aug 07, 2013 20:06 |  #5653

canon nfd 135mm 2.8

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Aug 07, 2013 21:10 |  #5654

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DAMN I BOUGHT IT OFF EBAY BEFORE I SAW YOUR POST. I asked some one who knew more about it than me and they said thens should be nice. They even compared it to Zuiko and Yashica. Smh damn!

I'm sure it's still a decent lens. I shot very briefly with my dad's Nikkor 24/2.8 and it looked pretty decent to me, more pleasing than my 24-105L at 24mm. I didn't shoot anything worth keeping, but from a technical standpoint it was pretty nice... unfortunately he wouldn't let me keep it :p

These are pretty sizeable crops from my Yashica ML 50/1.4 mounted on my EOS M at my girlfriend's friend's wedding

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This lens always surprises me with how sharp it is. I think both shots were at f/2.

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Aug 07, 2013 21:13 |  #5655

From today's bike ride...shots with the KOMINE version of the Vivitar Series1 70-210/2.8-4

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and a couple of 100% crops, just because they're nice portraits...

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