Thank you everyone for such a lovely thread! As a newbie, it helped me a lot. I will follow this.
Pupu Senior Member 267 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2009 Location: India More info | Jul 19, 2012 16:11 | #211 Thank you everyone for such a lovely thread! As a newbie, it helped me a lot. I will follow this. 550D gripped I Sigma 50mm F1.4 (Non Art) I Canon 100mm F2.0 I Nissin Di622 Mk II I YN 622C triggers I...and few other accessories
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ckweddingphoto Member 35 posts Joined May 2012 More info | Jul 21, 2012 09:44 | #212 this is a great thread, everyone has a lot of great info and unique set ups for sure.
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RichardStevens Member 123 posts Joined Nov 2006 Location: Leicestershire, UK More info | Jul 21, 2012 15:48 | #213 Can I ask what settings do you have the on-camera flash set to when using it for fill? Do you have it up 90 degrees for bounce, 45 degrees for a bit of both, or 100% direct? Also, is there ever a need to have the built-in diffuser on the 580 over the flash head? I've only ever done this when I've had to resort to direct flash. G: Canon 7D | 60D | 70-200 F4 L | 580 EX II x2
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Jul 21, 2012 15:58 | #214 Usually pointed up, white card out, ETTL at 0 or so. If bouncing doesn't work then I go direct, but that's rare, I'll bounce off a black ceiling before I go direct. I don't use any diffuser for my on camera flash, I don't believe they make a significant difference given the way I light things, and they're annoying awkward and expensive. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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RichardStevens Member 123 posts Joined Nov 2006 Location: Leicestershire, UK More info | Jul 24, 2012 07:47 | #215 Thanks Tim - I never know whether to have the built-in diffuser flap over the flash head or not when bouncing - I usually do have it down when bouncing on a low ceiling or a nearby wall, in hope of spreading the light slightly wider. G: Canon 7D | 60D | 70-200 F4 L | 580 EX II x2
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Jul 24, 2012 14:35 | #216 RichardStevens wrote in post #14761427 Thanks Tim - I never know whether to have the built-in diffuser flap over the flash head or not when bouncing - I usually do have it down when bouncing on a low ceiling or a nearby wall, in hope of spreading the light slightly wider. I don't, I use the default. Try pointing your camera at the ceiling at the focal length the flash zoom is set to, that's how large your apparent light source will be. Wide angle diffuser is probably just wasting light, battery, and increasing recharge time, unless you can touch the ceiling. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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ShootaBike Senior Member 337 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2011 Location: Ex land of the Gods - now land of the Poor! More info | Oct 29, 2012 06:19 | #217 Great info! Canon EOS 7D | Canon 580EX II | Metz Mecablitz 58 AF1 | Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM | Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro | Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM |Yongnuo YN-622C | Lots to learn...
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hattrick99 Hatchling 3 posts Joined Mar 2010 More info | Oct 30, 2012 15:02 | #218 tim wrote in post #7330963 I have no desire for radio poppers. In this situation having a consistent amount of light means all my shots come out the same brightness, and need exactly the same post processing. Using ETTL they're all going to come out different and would need to be processed individually, by hand. That slows my workflow down a LOT. Also using ETTL you do occasionally get some weird results. In long grass the other weekend I had 95% good exposures, but 5% were two stops overexposed with the same framing. I have no idea why. I use manual flash more than I use ETTL now, I just like the consistency. Of course I have an assistant manning the flash when we're doing an interactive session, by myself it'd probably be too time consuming. Tim,
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 30, 2012 15:45 | #219 hattrick99 wrote in post #15187464 Tim, Thanks for the information. I will practice this and then hopefully be ready for the next wedding or next wedding season. I use radiopoppers as I attended classes with the guys from tri-coast in Texas. They recommended them. I will hopefully be able to purchase the new canon flashes this off season. I have a seminar with Syl Arena and one at PPA so I am working on these things. I have used radiopoppers in portraits but like you said the reception lighting is tricky. My lighting is in ettl and your explanation helped tremendously. Manual off camera lighting is easier for many things IMHO, especially receptions. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Nov 05, 2012 12:50 | #220 ^ Gotta agree with you Tim. OCF at a wedding reception is pretty simple. The tricky part is setting it up so no one trips over a light stand and finding the time to set it up .
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btmlinedan Goldmember 1,559 posts Likes: 12 Joined Apr 2009 Location: ohio More info | Nov 05, 2012 15:48 | #221 tim wrote in post #14537244 There's no right and wrong, there's only light that you like. +∞! *dan l *Flickr
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professorman Goldmember 1,661 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2009 Location: VA More info | Mar 11, 2013 20:29 | #222 |
wernersl Goldmember 1,944 posts Joined Jan 2006 Location: Temecula, CA More info | Mar 11, 2013 20:36 | #223 professorman wrote in post #15704424 Does anyone use Alien Bees strobes to light reception? How can I get them to play nice with my on-camera flash? I have a 5D3 and 580EX2, and Yongnuo RF602 Triggers. How do I get everything to play nice with each other? I've put up pics earlier in this thread showing how i incorporate my oc flash with the transmitter. Play nice? Be more specific please. Shawn l Gear
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Mar 11, 2013 20:59 | #224 professorman wrote in post #15704424 Does anyone use Alien Bees strobes to light reception? How can I get them to play nice with my on-camera flash? I have a 5D3 and 580EX2, and Yongnuo RF602 Triggers. How do I get everything to play nice with each other? I did when I had the room to set them up. Frankly the liability , weight and size does not make AB a good option. It is one more bag to drag around. AND you need bigger light stands.
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StephenAndrew Senior Member 855 posts Joined Dec 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA USA More info | Mar 11, 2013 21:46 | #225 I think AB's are a great option if you have the space and time to set them up. Faster recycle times and more power than speedlites, and no need to worry about batteries dying - just make sure they're not in the way of any foot traffic... Connecticut Wedding and Portrait Photographer
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