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Dec 11, 2010 01:27 |  #1771

tiieff, thanks!

Brennan...that's sweet! You'll love it.


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Dec 11, 2010 01:37 |  #1772

Im pretty excited, this seemed a long way off till I got the news tonight about this gig. I think I can make do with a 50L and a 24LII for a while ;) That will be 2/3 of my trinity. Next step will be to re-buy the 135L which won't take too long once senior picture and prom season begin.


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Dec 12, 2010 01:49 |  #1773

I want one now!




  
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Dec 13, 2010 07:35 |  #1774

... I am still living like in a dream with a 5DMKII + 24L1.4II + 85L1.2II ..

Just a test with 30" pause @f22 ..

FullHD size by clicking on the picture

IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Architecture/2010-12-12-Shopping-de-Noêl/MG0262-CS5/1125903292_5Raxu-X2.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …S5/1125903292_5​Raxu-O.jpg  (external link)

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Dec 13, 2010 08:07 |  #1775

^Nice image but, I would like to see it brighter. :)




  
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Dec 13, 2010 09:37 as a reply to  @ jdizzle's post |  #1776

:confused: ... unfortunately, I would dream to get same dynamic range as new Nikon D7000 or Pentax K5 from 50 to 400 iso....
Actually, the cathedral is almost difficult to catch with such strong lightning ....

same sample as former with "more" light"
at 50isos

IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Architecture/2010-12-12-Shopping-de-Noêl/MG0262-PP/1124882333_Ztiq6-X2.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …PP/1124882333_Z​tiq6-O.jpg  (external link)

at 400isos (unfortunately, cathedral got burned with that exposure)
IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Architecture/2010-12-12-Shopping-de-Noêl/MG0263/1124882413_foNat-X2.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …63/1124882413_f​oNat-O.jpg  (external link)

My feeling is that for night shots, 24L1.4II has got a good margin.
But canon's body does really lack of dynamic range. (I didn't want to make an HDR) ...

That evening, I tried to catch "Christmas Shops" in my town ..and I was a bit disappointed by so many unavoidable burned parts.

http://photos.corbi.eu …g-de-Noêl/15054480_AsGdw (external link)

I really hope dynamic range of Canon sensors will be improved in the next few years, at least to reach Pentax and Nikon levels.

..

PS : ... usually I get better results RAW to JPG with DPP, but this time CS5 gave more latitude to extract all the dynamic include in the RAW file from this test ..

So at 50ISO, I could get exactly what I wanted with CS5 + Noisewarepro.

IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Architecture/2010-12-12-Shopping-de-Noêl/MG0262-CS5/1125903292_5Raxu-X2.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …S5/1125903292_5​Raxu-O.jpg  (external link)

So this sample was not good to speak about the lack of dynamic with Canon sensors. DPP couldn't reach my target, CS5 was much better in this case

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Dec 13, 2010 10:32 |  #1777

yes, that is always the issue, too much burning in photos :(


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Dec 13, 2010 17:34 |  #1778

newworld666 wrote in post #11443862 (external link)
:confused: ... unfortunately, I would dream to get same dynamic range as new Nikon D7000 or Pentax K5 from 50 to 400 iso....
Actually, the cathedral is almost difficult to catch with such strong lightning ....

same sample as former with "more" light"
at 50isos
QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …PP/1124882333_Z​tiq6-O.jpg  (external link)

at 400isos (unfortunately, cathedral got burned with that exposure)
QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://photos.corbi.eu …63/1124882413_f​oNat-O.jpg  (external link)

My feeling is that for night shots, 24L1.4II has got a good margin.
But canon's body does really lack of dynamic range. (I didn't want to make an HDR) ...

That evening, I tried to catch "Christmas Shops" in my town ..and I was a bit disappointed by so many unavoidable burned parts.

http://photos.corbi.eu …g-de-Noêl/15054480_AsGdw (external link)

I really hope dynamic range of Canon sensors will be improved in the next few years, at least to reach Pentax and Nikon levels.

..

?

Do you honestly think that that half a stop makes a difference? Apart from the fact that a monitor is capable of showing the DR of your Canon 16-bit file, unless you are prepared to pay > 10,000 for a monitor.

Besides, the DR of your RAW file is already such that in order to get out everything, you would need to do "single shot HDR type stuff" regardless.

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yes, that is always the issue, too much burning in photos :(

That is a matter of exposing to the right, properly, and doing a little PP.

I dl-ed the picture. This is my result after < 2 minutes of work:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 401 | MIME changed to 'text/html'


Upped saturation, upped brightness, lowered contrast, moved curve to the left and compressed curve a bit.

Yes, some detail is lost in the cathedral, but underexposed about 1/2 to a whole stop, and it would have been allright. I could have done more, if need be, but would need the RAW rather than the jpeg.

BTW, no HDR stuff, because the DR of a jpeg is rather limited.

Kind regards, Wim

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Dec 13, 2010 17:49 |  #1779

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Dec 13, 2010 18:34 |  #1780

Thank you toshiro7
2nd one is the best


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Dec 13, 2010 21:21 |  #1781

Nice indeed. I like both very much. :)


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Dec 14, 2010 01:12 |  #1782

wimg wrote in post #11446480 (external link)
?

Do you honestly think that that half a stop makes a difference? Apart from the fact that a monitor is capable of showing the DR of your Canon 16-bit file, unless you are prepared to pay > 10,000 for a monitor.

Besides, the DR of your RAW file is already such that in order to get out everything, you would need to do "single shot HDR type stuff" regardless.

That is a matter of exposing to the right, properly, and doing a little PP.

I dl-ed the picture. This is my result after < 2 minutes of work:

Upped saturation, upped brightness, lowered contrast, moved curve to the left and compressed curve a bit.

Yes, some detail is lost in the cathedral, but underexposed about 1/2 to a whole stop, and it would have been allright. I could have done more, if need be, but would need the RAW rather than the jpeg.

BTW, no HDR stuff, because the DR of a jpeg is rather limited.

Kind regards, Wim


Thanks .... To tell the truth, I didn't spent much time for post processing and I mostly don't like HDR Style.. but, that's right with CS5 I could extract all the dynamic of the raw file and just get as natural as it should have been in my first post..

So I have corrected my sample and the initial post.


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Dec 14, 2010 02:09 |  #1783

newworld666 wrote in post #11448719 (external link)
Thanks .... To tell the truth, I didn't spent much time for post processing and I mostly don't like HDR Style.. but, that's right with CS5 I could extract all the dynamic of the raw file and just get as natural as it should have been in my first post..

So I have corrected my sample and the initial post.

Well, I know HDR isn't for everybody but, you certainly can take multiple exposures and manually blend to get the DR/detail.




  
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Dec 14, 2010 07:52 |  #1784

jdizzle wrote in post #11448862 (external link)
Well, I know HDR isn't for everybody but, you certainly can take multiple exposures and manually blend to get the DR/detail.

:confused: .. I should have done bracketing, but basically it was just a test for long pausing and F22 to still water. I didn't know whether sharpness would be acceptable or not.

Actually, I was surprised on many pictures that the histograms were relatively good to see on the 5DMKII screen, but with the 24mm I got many "burned parts" that I can't get back even with camera RAW.

In one sense, it's more difficult to control 24mm pictures than 85mm (as I am used to do and control live).
I am now thinking that histogram just show like an average of the picture, which can be insufficient for landscape situation, when we try to get 100% of the scene sharp and correctly exposed.


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Dec 14, 2010 08:41 |  #1785

jdizzle wrote in post #11448862 (external link)
Well, I know HDR isn't for everybody but, you certainly can take multiple exposures and manually blend to get the DR/detail.

I've never really tried "advanced" pp stuff... Could you do that kind of stuff with just a single shot? Or do you need to have multiple exposures?


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