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OMG 1Ds MK3 hit the concrete

 
Nathan
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Feb 26, 2009 10:29 |  #226

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1) so are you implying that you think this situation should be resolved differently only on the basis of stated law?
2) ..and? they're both personal property.
3) why yes, when i am walking around, i usually make it a point to see where i am going and to assess my surroundings. this is why i say sorry if i bump into people on the metro, it's my fault for walking into stationary objects or people.
4) actually, per most state laws, as long as you run into a stationary or unattended vehicle, it is YOUR responsibility to leave contact information for the car owner. i can park my car some place it is not supposed to be parked but it is NOT MOVING and it is the responsibility of other drivers not to run into it. if a car is blocking a roadway, you are not free of liability if you use your car to nudge it out of the way. you call a towing company and you get that car impounded. if it is stationary, it is your responsibility if you collide with it. (it doesn't matter if i'm a foot out of my space and the rear of my car is widely sticking out of a spot, if someone hits it, they are supposed to leave a note.)

i just don't see a huge difference between these two accidental forms of destruction of property. one is just more common so it is protected by laws, the other is not.

Last point exactly. Your (4) addresses my point that a car is different than a camera. Statutory law delineates that owning and driving a car obligates you to certain responsibilities. (3) If you bump into someone accidentally and cause him to fall and break his arm, then his health insurance will pay him for injury. You could be nice and say sorry and offer to pay, but you're not obligated to. (2) Again, personal property but different obligations. (1) Statutory law establishes strict liability. There's case law and common law, too... but those are tested by going to court. If you go to court, then test out your theory that way. All I'm saying is that there's not enough to require this woman to pay for either damages or replacement.


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Feb 26, 2009 12:44 |  #227

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I doubt that person would be able to get 1' from me before he/she was on the ground with my foot in there mouth while I called the police. That's a hefty damage bill right there. I hope everything works out for your bud.:(

Uh, huh. And then you're off to jail. Where you'd belong. That's why we have laws, to protect us from people like you.

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Feb 26, 2009 13:48 |  #228

Synenergy52 wrote in post #7410991 (external link)
Sorry, homeowners won't cover it unless you have a specific "rider" for your camera

Not entirely true.

After reading this story I called my insurance agent and found out my camera was covered up to $1,500 given my policy. Obviously this amount/coverage changes depending on your particular company/policy. For me, this would cover the cost of my camera only... a 50D. Nothing near the price of a 1Dx. Conversely, I have $5,000 coverage for firearms by default with my policy. Go figure.

Different policies and companies will have different coverage.

I bumped my coverage to $5k which covers pretty much everything I carry in my camera bag for $80 a year.




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Feb 26, 2009 13:50 |  #229

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Uh, huh. And then you're off to jail. Where you'd belong. That's why we have laws, to protect us from people like you.

Bye, everyone. Unsubscribing.

-js

It's best you left, you were about >< that close to getting your butt kicked!

:p

I think you should be able to preemptively assault anyone that comes within arms reach of your camera. Think the castle doctrine, only mobile and for cameras.

JUST KIDDING!




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Feb 26, 2009 14:01 |  #230

I'm not leaving this thread until everyone agrees with me. Bring it on! :lol:


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Feb 26, 2009 14:05 |  #231
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I hate to be a **** but why in the hell did you have a 10 000 $ piece of equipment sitting on a restaurant table ?

It's your own fault for being negligent and not paying attention.

Though rule #1: never ask for legal advice on the internet.

If it was insured:
....Call insurance company. Report the incident with the police...who knows, depends on your plan and your area.

If it wasn't:
Sorry, that sucks, tough luck hope you can repair that thing.


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Feb 26, 2009 14:38 as a reply to  @ Karl Johnston's post |  #232
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BLACK MAMBA wrote in post #7409234 (external link)
My deepest sympathy...

On the other hand, You should have taken a picture of the event and write OWN3D or POWN3D on it..

:eek:

I think the most current term is "epic fail".

S.E.V. wrote in post #7410848 (external link)
I doubt that person would be able to get 1' from me before he/she was on the ground with my foot in there mouth while I called the police. That's a hefty damage bill right there. I hope everything works out for your bud.:(

Yeah, getting yourself put in jail is a GENIUS solution. Really. We're in awe of such brilliance.

<shakes head at idiot keyboard warriors>


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Feb 26, 2009 14:45 |  #233

wow you guys brought this thread to 16 pages... at least that 1Ds Mark III can rest in peace knowing it didn't die in vain.


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Feb 26, 2009 14:49 |  #234

Its only 5. You need to change your default posts per page!


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Feb 26, 2009 14:52 |  #235

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Its only 5. You need to change your default posts per page!

mine is on page 8 :(


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Feb 26, 2009 14:54 |  #236

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mine is on page 8 :(

i think it depends on how large your screen is as well as the resolution of your monitor. I have my posts per page on default.


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Feb 26, 2009 14:54 |  #237

it's an impressive 5 pages...not


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Feb 26, 2009 15:43 |  #238

brianch wrote in post #7412829 (external link)
i think it depends on how large your screen is as well as the resolution of your monitor. I have my posts per page on default.

not how large the screen, its the number of posts per page you have your defaults set to (screen size doesn't matter, thats why there are scroll bars).


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Feb 26, 2009 16:10 |  #239

5 pages here, i changed my default view posts per pages.

Soon next month i will get back my classic 5D which dropped once and had many accidents in my car, so i will use it to protect my 1DsIII.


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Feb 26, 2009 17:36 |  #240

alt4852 wrote in post #7410374 (external link)
4) actually, per most state laws, as long as you run into a stationary or unattended vehicle, it is YOUR responsibility to leave contact information for the car owner. i can park my car some place it is not supposed to be parked but it is NOT MOVING and it is the responsibility of other drivers not to run into it. if a car is blocking a roadway, you are not free of liability if you use your car to nudge it out of the way. you call a towing company and you get that car impounded. if it is stationary, it is your responsibility if you collide with it. (it doesn't matter if i'm a foot out of my space and the rear of my car is widely sticking out of a spot, if someone hits it, they are supposed to leave a note.)

i just don't see a huge difference between these two accidental forms of destruction of property. one is just more common so it is protected by laws, the other is not.

Maybe those that see cameras and cars as equals should start lobbying their lawmakers and get all the laws concerning automobiles to include cameras also. From disposables to Hassys.


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